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06-19-2017 , 11:26 AM
Been playing a lot of mixed games lately. Often the mix is triple draw heavy. Last night, in Badacey I am dealt A, 2, 3, face, face. UTG I raise it up and both blinds call.

I draw 2, SB draws 2, BB draws 3. Very standard.

I get 5, T I bet out and get both calls. SB, BB draw 2.

So my main question is this.... Can I ever draw 2 here again? Can I ever throw the 5? With two draws, am I better off drawing for the low spade with 2 cards, or just accept that a 3 card 3 is usually pretty decent against both opponents who are yet to make a hand (however, nor am I)?
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06-19-2017 , 12:35 PM
Literally only played this live for the 1st time this month on my first trip to Vegas (Played a bunch of 2-7 triple draw/badugi before though) but I'm gonna have a crack at it.

In this game I believe you should be drawing for the badugi and back into the low. Against 2 opponents drawing 2 with another draw to go, I'd also draw 2 while you have the nut 3 card hand and give yourself the best chance to scoop. Drawing 1 in a multiway pot could get dicey. What do you do when you catch a suited 7, or say the 9♠? I think drawing 1 makes it more likely that you get scooped as more often than not you'll make a low without a badugi that may or may not be good.

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06-19-2017 , 03:10 PM
I don't get the opportunity to play a ton of badacey/badeucey but I'd be surprised if you are supposed to throw away the 5.
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06-19-2017 , 04:31 PM
Don't draw 2, keep the 5

Keeping a suited 7 practically always, 9 is more situational but often a keep
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06-19-2017 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
Don't draw 2, keep the 5

Keeping a suited 7 practically always, 9 is more situational but often a keep
Hmm, I know I'd keep those cards heads up but it just seems like it's harder to scoop in a multiway pot even though we have 4 to a wheel

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06-19-2017 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Codfish60
Hmm, I know I'd keep those cards heads up but it just seems like it's harder to scoop in a multiway pot even though we have 4 to a wheel

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Its much easier to win half, and we still have strong scoop potential and favorable position - drawing 2 is truly wasteful in this spot, opponents can even incorrectly break bad badugis against our line

Our 3 card badugi is allready quite strong and it wouldn't be shocking to scoop with something like 9532a 3 card badugi
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06-20-2017 , 12:08 AM
You have the nut tri two pulls to make the nuts if you keep the 5, w a bit of FE that may get one out (but unlikely u win the hand right there on the turn). Your tri will win plenty and it allows you to showdown UI, barring some heavy action. Keep the 5, bet turn.
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06-20-2017 , 12:14 PM
I kept the 5, drew a 7 and bet the second draw. They fold mucked and I took it down there.

I didn't really give it any thought of throwing the 5 until afterwards. However, given the likelihood of player peeling after the first draw, I have position, and no one is ahead of me in cards, I have to keep the 5. I still have plenty of scoop potential, as well as fold equity.

Both players are very good poker players. If either bets into me after the first draw, I am a bit more likely to draw 2.
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06-20-2017 , 12:26 PM
I'm always keeping the 5 here but what about a 6 or 7? Are those both (easy) discards? How about on the final draw in the following scenario:

Scenario:
Picking up from the OP, hero draws 2 and catches 7 and a face card
Turn checks threw.
Blinds both draw 2 again
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06-20-2017 , 01:44 PM
intuitively id say still keep the 6 and 7 is where it's tough and start to be reasonable to throw it away.

in that scenario i still think im betting after the first draw.
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