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Old 08-19-2012, 10:46 PM   #1
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[6-max 5 Card Draw] Does ICM exist here?

Hello everyone, excuse me for my english

I'm an NLHE 9-max SNG player and, as you understand, ICM is my bread and butter. I want to learn how to play 5-Card Draw. Does ICM exist here too?

I mean, if i'm on small blind should i push Any Two Cards against the Big Blind if i have 10 or less BB like in Texas Hold'Em?

Also, how can i pratice my ICM for 5-Card Draw games?

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Old 08-20-2012, 03:45 AM   #2
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Re: [6-max 5 Card Draw] Does ICM exist here?

I think that the main idea behind ICM calculation (your probability of taking the 1st place is proportional to the number of chips you have compared to the number of chips in the tournament) should work for 5CD. But I don't know software for 5CD tournaments like SNG Wisard for Holdem.

Speaking of pushing any2, I have some reasons not to push any2 in 5CD in this situation despite I don't know exact math - remember that Holdem has much more variance than 5CD. For example:
Holdem: Any2 vs AJo or 66 (these hands are about the boundary of 7-8% best) has 36% equity
5CD: Any2 vs 2233 or AA (also about 7-8%) has less than 8% equity
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:58 AM   #3
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Re: [6-max 5 Card Draw] Does ICM exist here?

Pushing any hand is not the best idea but ICM does exist. But I think cutting it down to AKh+ is the way to go.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:20 PM   #4
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Re: [6-max 5 Card Draw] Does ICM exist here?

You mean as in 5card draw tourneys? Because I never saw any of those
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:01 PM   #5
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Re: [6-max 5 Card Draw] Does ICM exist here?

You can use ICM for any tournament structure...you should apply the same principles as in nlhe to find the range of hands you should be shoving. It's just going to be a function of the stack sizes, prize structure, opponent's expected calling range, and average equity versus that range. I'm sure you can find thresholds similar to nlhe.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:59 PM   #6
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:01 AM   #7
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Re: [6-max 5 Card Draw] Does ICM exist here?

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You mean as in 5card draw tourneys? Because I never saw any of those
Poker Stars have PL 5CD SNG. And different (FL PL NL) 5CD MTT up to $215.
There is also $215 WCOOP-06 : NL Draw on September 04.
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