pretty std spot, BTN does some plays like isoing etc so i may get reraised.

what do u look for here in order to call this?
i would be calling with a good 1 draw but with two? its always a fold right?

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 6 players
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Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is MP with Q 9 5 4 2
UTG raises, Hero calls, CO folds, BTN calls, SB folds, BB folds

First Draw: (7.5 SB) (3 players)
UTG draws 2, Hero draws 2, BTN draws 1
Hand: A 5 5 4 2
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets, UTG raises, Hero

Pretty non-standard spot imo, why didn't BTN reraise pre? Has he ever done this before?

Even if he has a trashy draw and neither of them is pat, your equity barely exceeds your immediate pot odds. Easy fold.

i meant std spot that happens a lot sorry my english is not the best

so most of the times 2cold is a no go for 2cd hands right?

i see this a lot in high stakes that people are trying to raise out the others and they call nevertheless.

in this case he was spazzy doing this a lot like capping flop and drawing

And I meant it doesn't happen a lot, your English is good. The pot is smaller than usual and BTN's range might be weaker than normal. UTG may or may not care. He may or may not normally ever raise on a draw, except maybe once in a while with 7432 or when he's tilted. Some people even give more respect to a flop bet if it comes from someone who already drew 1.

At least in singly raised pots. Probably in 3-bet pots too if you haven't seen the raiser do it with a draw before or if the bettor is known to 3-bet flop light.

Move up to where they don't respect your raises?

stop cold calling a raise with 542 and you wont be in this spot

so vempele there are times that you do call right? when the pot is big and the raise is tilty or does this all the time to drive ppl out?

LVPILET: as a matter of fact i never do call, thread is a question

So you fold then? I dont think 3-betting in this pos with that hand is good.

Probably old school 3-bet or fold pre thinking. And in this hand, 3-betting pre just causes BTN to cap a lot of the time...lol I flat almost any playable 2cd draw in this spot pre.

As for OP, I don't mind folding unless UTG c/r's light here. Generally a straightforward UTG is pat here, or at very worst has a good 1cd draw and your immediate pot odds are pretty meh to continue.

sorry my mind after 12h of poker got jammed.

i didnt understand we had a "pre" discussion. of course i call here always with 245 never 3bet a utg raise and never fold which is wrong imo. you cant call only with 237 and they dont have so much difference. maybe fold a 246 if utg is absurdly tight but then again we have pos.


i was talking about post and didnt catch lvpilets comment.

sorry for the confusion!

realize the name of the game 2/7 deuce seven td
what do you give the person raising?
button draws only 1
you call with a 2 card draw with medium strength hand with no seven
after first draw you hit the worst card(A) and a pair and have to call two bets cold again

what is your question? button could be pat and utg could be pat or drawing better than you and or button

pre fold

surely all utg raises are 2347 i realise that now.

must be sarcasm but then i realized this is 2+2

then, of course, you are asking a beginner's question about 2/7
and debating whether or not to call a raise on flop peeling again
with a55

plus you are playing 2/4

so "surely" that

once you can beat 75/150 and above "surely" youll understand

Now let's all be jerks and possibly cause people to ask less questions on this subforum! Hear, hear!

lvpilet you are just wrong and annoying, I play 200/400 so surely I must understand the subtleties of predraw play, I would play the same as OP

ive played against you

and his question is about calling a raise on the 1st draw after button took 1 and pre checkraised

so i doubt you call 2 bets cold on 1st draw given hand a5532 and the action

but maybe you do since you got torched in a mix game at commerce when i played