I mean, I like Cody, but...

wat

He's not bryan in the ring but he's way better on the mic. He's more fitting of 'the look'

Easily superior to ambrose in every facet

Still not 30

Not sure I see the problem

He's pretty small-looking. Not especially tall and not especially muscular (both by wrestler standards). Good looks works well for the women in the audience, but the other half of having a good wrestling look is that you look superhuman, and he just looks like some dude.

Good in-ring worker, not great.

He's the guy who is solid at every aspect of being a good wrestler, but not really great at any of them. Being well-rounded only goes so far if you don't have a really strong point of difference to separate yourself.

I could do a sign that says, "Shoutout to 2plus2."

If you want to go with a 2p2 sign then I'd suggest "THE IWC FEARS DIDS"

Just saw this posted on another site. I'm not sure if it's accurate but it's an insane statistic if true.

We need to start using the 20/80 scale that baseball scouts do for look, in ring ability, and talk

Considering nobody has ever been 80-80-80 (in baseball or wrestling) I'd give Cody:

(Current/Potential)
Look - 50/55
Ability - 60/65
Talk - 55/65

My kids are watching Mad TV on Netflix and this sketch came on:

IT'S NOT JUST GOOD
IT'S GOOD ENOUGH

i mean look at the "next generation" of wrestlers that are currently on raw. even throw bryan into that mix if you want.

so we're talking ziggler, rusev, wyatt, shield, rhodes, bryan, technically barrett i guess?

of them on the mic i would say rhodes is the best currently. every promo he's done since turning on goldust and even the promos he did when it was him vs the authority before his honeymoon or wahtever have been absolutely fantastic. his "you're living in my shadow" promo at fastlane was the best non-heyman/h/stephanie promo cut so far this year afaik

ziggler is pretty mediocre on teh mic, rusev is rusev, wyatt is insanely overrated (although i may just be jaded because they're all the same ****ing promo even after over 1 ****ing year), ambrose is ok, reigns is lol, rollins is lol with feeling, bryan is meh, barrett is good but british

that by itself is huge. add in the fact that he can work, is aesthetically more in the vince mold than the indy mold and ya, even though he's undersized considering the options they have i'm sticking to my guns on this

Cody has pretty much maximized value out of whatever has been given to him (Legacy, Dashing, Rhodes Scholars, Stardust).

I'm not sure he's main event capable, but he certainly deserves a shot at it.

Stardust could definitely be a main event heel right now which is the last thing I ever thought I'd say when this gimmick started

Sticking to your guns on "by far best all-around performer on the main roster"? I mean, okay. That's a pretty huge statement. Cody does talk really well, but I honestly don't remember him consistently getting a significant crowd reaction since that Rey Mysterio feud from a few years ago. If your promo work isn't really getting you over then I don't know how much it's worth.

Barrett being six inches taller than Rhodes goes quite a ways, since I think that he at least matches Cody as both a talker and an in-ring worker.

Beyond wildly exaggerating with the initial statement though, you make a pretty good case for Cody and I'm not against him getting a main event push at all. I'm unconvinced that he would successfully get main event over, but I'd like to see them try.

I forgot to add words to the initial statement. Meant 'best all around performer of the next generation'

For whatever reason I tend to skip words when I write believing I've already written them

Also Barrett sans accent is the guy. Unfortunate that not being american hurts him but it most certainly does

Edit: and sheamus sucks so don't bring him up

Say what you will about Sheamus, but he certainly got to a main event level of over, accent be damned.

Barrett might be the most mis-used and unfortunate wrestler of the past 5 years. Him not being developed in to a genuine main eventer by now is just absurd.

If you think about the momentum he had at the end of Nexus, and how good he is in every way, and to think that the WWE basically said nah **** that lets spend our time pushing john cena, the miz and a part-timer for the 3 years following, is crazy (and yes I know Barrett's injuries played some role in this).


Rhodes, to me is a great midcarder. He is truly great at getting people to care about midcard matches and is a competent allrounder in every way. I don't see him as a main eventer though.

Most misused is probably Ryback, because they keep using him as a wrestler when he'd probably be a perfectly fine full-time janitor.

Barrett until rather recently was so obviously contrived and horrible in his non-verbal communication (basically, a really bad actor that was acting) that I'm actually surprised he got to where he is. He is about above average in the ring; like with Rhodes, what classic matches has he had? Miz got pushed because they force people to be actors and he can act somewhat.

Are you including NXT in that because lol if you are.

I'll take IRM's side on this. It's probably a bit of hyperbole, but not too much. I think Dolph is the best worker in the company, but I'd probably put Cody and Bryan next, and have a reasonably big gap after those three.

This is interesting. I thought I was the only one that hated Ryback, and you and I disagree on practically everything because you're an old man.

no, just the ppl on the main roster currently

The next really over wrestler in WWE will be the one that comes up with the best crowd chant along or "WOOOOOOO!"

In that case I don't think it's such a bad claim. I definitely put Cody in the top 5 all around on the roster, maybe top 3. He has made the best of every gimmick they've given him and could easily be a top heel or face. It's insane how much experience he has on the roster and still under 30.

I still think Bryan is the best. It's easy to forget how great he was on the mic when he isn't playing the standard WWE top face role. He might not have the classic WWE "look" but he is still clearly marketable.

as i've said before, vegan dbry was terrific on the mic as a heel. No doubt he could be not lame as face, don't doubt he's been directed the way of cheeseball cena cheeseball sheamus cheesebal punk as "how to face".