The eggshell cases on the WM VHS were the greatest thing ever. Opening up one of those sounded like Christmas.

Posted in the NVG thread but wanted to mention again that RAW after WM14 was really good. Watched it in its entirety the other night and there's so many nice little finds in there,The real beginning of McMahon vs Austin behind the big one.

Not enough scripted promos.

****ing Vince.

Ugh

I'm continuing in my viewing of WM IV today. Some notes:

*I've always loved Jesse Ventura contending that even if he helped Dino Bravo complete his record bench press, he was only applying two pounds of finger pressure. It was the rare time you heard Gorilla Monsoon actually break and laugh out loud.

*This was Ricky Steamboat's WWF swan song (at least for a handful of years), and it's odd that Jesse acknowledged Valentine beating him as an upset. If the reason for putting Valentine over in lieu of setting up Savage-Steamboat II was just to book Steamboat as worse than a random midcarder, that comment kind of defeats it, plus it makes it look like Savage got an easier pass in the next round.

*I have Jake vs. Rude on right now. I'm having to digest it in parts, because ****. Hadn't really thought about it previously, but the fact that they spend the whole damn match in rest holds seems even more egregious since they were not long removed from an intense blood feud. Somehow in relatively short time, they moved on to just dispassionately sitting in a reverse chinlock for 15 minutes.

*I do prefer the old format of showing backstage promos for guys who weren't about to go have their match right that minute, rather than today's methods where wrestlers seemingly always just do promos directly before their matches. It's a subtle thing, but I think it added something to portray that the wrestlers were backstage and getting pumped up for their match in an hour.

Reading again, I especially like this part of the article because LOL pro wrestling promoters:

Vince turns 72 next month.

Revolution!

Did the tournament happen already?

Everything except the final has been taped. Everything airs in September with the final being live.

The tourn does seem kind of lame though because...

Gotcha I'm going to try to watch it.

In general I sort of agree with the execs that the women in the women's division should be hot but this is based on the assumption that they are poor wrestlers and bad on the mic and otherwise don't bring much to the table as professional wrestlers. Even with the current divas roster, I think using Raw or Smackdown airtime to show women's matches or advance their storylines is -EV because they noticeably less talented and less entertaining than even the low/mid-card men. If they are hot I'm much more inclined to stay tuned in for bad wrestling and promos and at the end of the day I think what they care about are eyes on the TV.

I think you really need another 6-8 Alexa Bliss / Asuka / Charlotte level talents who can hold their own in the ring or on the mic to really solidify the division and make it worthwhile from an airtime perspective.

It's unbelievable to me that Asuka isn't on the main roster yet.

There's no shortage of hot women that are decent in the ring on the indy scene and a few of them are in the tourn.

My problem with the MYC is unlike the CWC, there's already a women's division in the WWE and none of them are in it. So they're trying to bill these women as the best in the world but at the same time keeping them a tier behind the women already signed with the WWE. It's just makes the whole thing seem kind of pointless and more like a tryout for the competitors.

That's what NXT is too. I think it's okay to strike a balance where workers are obviously trying to earn a spot in the big leagues while also trying to make their showcase seem important enough that fans should actually watch it.

If the MYC girls are legit fantastic in the ring then I really hope they are given a chance on the main roster regardless of how they look.

WWE needs to figure out whether there's money to be made from offering high quality female wrestling. They should know more than I do about their business but I really think there's a huge disconnect between what fans want vs. what WWE thinks we want. I think most fans, casual and hardcore, want to see great wrestling first and foremost. I think the women's division would see a huge uptick in popularity if they filled it with wrestlers who are as good as the midcard men. If they keep putting out low skilled divas, it will continue to mostly be a piss break regardless of how pretty they are.

Wow I have to say HHH is winning my respect after watching his series of matches vs Foley in 1997. Some great matches to watch, just watched the 1st match of Cactus Jack in the WWF vs HHH, falls count anywhere on Raw 226

I really couldnt stand him before he introduced Chyna although he had always been decent/smooth in the ring

Wtf Stone Cold Stunner on McMahon!

They have been teasing this for weeks after he Stunnered everyone else lol

This is gonna get good over the next months haha

I always remember the lamest Stunner segment in the lead-up to that Vince Stunner being the one where Lawler trailed him around the ring just blatantly leaning his head forward over Austin's shoulder until it happened.

Lol yep Lawlers was ridiculously telegraphed

I still consider that Raw the greatest WWE event I have ever attended. Was also Pillman's last appearance if I remember.

I got this one wrong. Their blood feud cropped up during the following summer. Now their WM match - while still ****ing awful - makes more sense to me.

I moved ahead from WM IV to SummerSlam '88.



Future WWF/WWE women got half-naked and made out with each other on-screen, and just seeing the back of Miss Elizabeth's bikini bottom remains timeless.

Unfortunately, there were no iclouds to hack back in the day.

I sadly didn't realize that Miss Elizabeth had died until almost 4 years after it happened.

Her and Macho Man were such a big part of my youth that it still saddens me that both are gone (far too young of course)


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I definitely credit Miss Elizabeth and Kelly Kapowski as the reasons for me realizing that girls didn't have cooties.

At work I recently pushed off the story of Savage's death as being a car wreck. A co-worker said he looked it up and that the official cause of death was heart attack, as apparently the car wreck was pretty minor. I internally shook my head and thought, "Didn't think you'd actually look that closely into it when we had that conversation..."

Elizabeth was super hot even into her nWo days