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05-01-2015 , 02:04 AM
Forgot these two gifs from the same spot at the IYH PPV. Stone Cold with that pitchers aim.



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05-01-2015 , 05:14 AM
RAW 3/2/98:

Open with a great DX promo > SCSA comes down talks trash > Kane interrupts and Paul talks > Austin gets on commentary to talk trash.
Marked out seeing Shane get out of Tyson's limo when it arrived. Shane wasn't mentioned though so I assume it was his first appearance on the show as part of Tyson's crew.
Some ok advancement in the NAO vs Foley/Funk feud.
Tom Brandi vs Marc Mero - 1998's Kofi vs Dolph, except worse since neither are over. Mero wins, crowd yawns. Goldust attacks Mero after the match and Sable bounces down to the ring to save him.
Tyson and HBK, Tyson and HBK - Things JR never said. That was a very fun angle with them about to go fistacuffs and HBK ripping Tyson's shirt off.
Kama vs Blackman - Nation attacks while Blackman has Kama in an anklelock or some ****. The Rock hits The Rock Bottom for the first time on tv in this attack.
I never knew that Robert Fuller was in the WWF. I loved this guy as Col. Robert Parker in WCW. Unfortunately he has to introduce the newold Jeff Jarrett that goes back to being "Double J" after leaving Cornette last week. Should have put "The Roadie" back with him... Tennessee Lee? oh my ****. **** off. Flash Funk ruins the fun. Have I mentioned I hate Jeff Jarrett?
LOL JR: *Jarrett does figure four* "There's shades of "The Nature Boy"............Buddy Rogers." jfc. A+ delivery if he was going for comedy.
Shockingly, Austin was set-up by Kane for DX.
Kane/Paul promo and sign reads: "OH MY GOD THEY KILLED UNDY" A++. Marked the **** out for Undertaker's return. His promo was also very good.
Really liked how they did Kane/Austin into Austin/DX into Kane/Taker.

Overall, I'm disappointed with the AE so far. Before that episode, I was really only invested in the Austin/HBK rivalry. Now that final segment got me to buy into the Kane/Taker stuff. I'm finding the midcard is way overrated now and the crowd back then really didn't care that much for 90% of the midcarders. Rock, Foley, Shamrock, Owen, HHH seem to be the only midcard guys that are over at all....maybe the NAO.
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05-01-2015 , 05:43 AM
Shane made a lot of random on screen appearances going back to 1990 where they would either not use his name or would use a fake last name.

I haven't rewatched either extensively, but WCW in general and Nitro in particular from 95-97 or 98 is better than any 90s WWF run. Much better wrestling and midcard/undercard. Sometimes the main event scene/booking is hilariously bad, but is entertaining in a way at least.

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05-01-2015 , 11:12 AM
He reffed for a bit as well didn't he?
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05-01-2015 , 11:16 AM
I think so.

The earliest I remember seeing him was when he was one of the random suits running out of the back to try to keep Miss Elizabeth away from ringside during the WM VIII title match between Flair and Savage.
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05-01-2015 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
RAW 3/2/98:

Open with a great DX promo > SCSA comes down talks trash > Kane interrupts and Paul talks > Austin gets on commentary to talk trash.
Marked out seeing Shane get out of Tyson's limo when it arrived. Shane wasn't mentioned though so I assume it was his first appearance on the show as part of Tyson's crew.
Some ok advancement in the NAO vs Foley/Funk feud.
Tom Brandi vs Marc Mero - 1998's Kofi vs Dolph, except worse since neither are over. Mero wins, crowd yawns. Goldust attacks Mero after the match and Sable bounces down to the ring to save him.
Tyson and HBK, Tyson and HBK - Things JR never said. That was a very fun angle with them about to go fistacuffs and HBK ripping Tyson's shirt off.
Kama vs Blackman - Nation attacks while Blackman has Kama in an anklelock or some ****. The Rock hits The Rock Bottom for the first time on tv in this attack.
I never knew that Robert Fuller was in the WWF. I loved this guy as Col. Robert Parker in WCW. Unfortunately he has to introduce the newold Jeff Jarrett that goes back to being "Double J" after leaving Cornette last week. Should have put "The Roadie" back with him... Tennessee Lee? oh my ****. **** off. Flash Funk ruins the fun. Have I mentioned I hate Jeff Jarrett?
LOL JR: *Jarrett does figure four* "There's shades of "The Nature Boy"............Buddy Rogers." jfc. A+ delivery if he was going for comedy.
Shockingly, Austin was set-up by Kane for DX.
Kane/Paul promo and sign reads: "OH MY GOD THEY KILLED UNDY" A++. Marked the **** out for Undertaker's return. His promo was also very good.
Really liked how they did Kane/Austin into Austin/DX into Kane/Taker.

Overall, I'm disappointed with the AE so far. Before that episode, I was really only invested in the Austin/HBK rivalry. Now that final segment got me to buy into the Kane/Taker stuff. I'm finding the midcard is way overrated now and the crowd back then really didn't care that much for 90% of the midcarders. Rock, Foley, Shamrock, Owen, HHH seem to be the only midcard guys that are over at all....maybe the NAO.
Im at about the same point in rewatching AE RAWs that you are so Ill use the term "we". I think we are currently in the very very early stages of the AE on RAW, and they havent quite hit their stride yet. I know a lot of people point to Montreal as the beginning of the AE but I think it is the RAW after WM when Austin is champ, Rock is closer to being "The Rock", and DX starts their 2nd generation. It wasnt until this point where I think they started to pull away from WCW, eventhough the ratings wouldnt reflect it for a lot longer than that.

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I haven't rewatched either extensively, but WCW in general and Nitro in particular from 95-97 or 98 is better than any 90s WWF run. Much better wrestling and midcard/undercard. Sometimes the main event scene/booking is hilariously bad, but is entertaining in a way at least.
I havent either, and at this point then, I was more of a WCW watcher, but tried to catch both when I could. I will say that you are correct "at the time". Everything did seem better in the moment, but Im curious how it holds up knowing what we know now. I will agree that the midcard (read: cruiserweights and luchadores) was better than a lot of wrestling in my lifetime, but on the whole, in hindsight, I wonder how we will be jaded.
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05-01-2015 , 03:27 PM
Went to watch the next episode of RAW. They expect me to pay for this!?!??!?! Are you kidding?!?!?!?!

Can somebody pm me the site that has the AE stuff on it. PLEASE!!!??? If that video quality is ****, I'll just get the Network, honestly even though it's free again this month.

I have a theory that the watchwrestling site is LittleKurbioh's. The RAW's start on the same episode that he started his Mark Remark show.
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05-01-2015 , 09:51 PM
I may rewatch wrestler by wrestler, kind of like how LKJ did with those excellent tribute threads. I suspect I'd rather watch everything Mick Foley/the career of Mick Foley, then everything Bret Hart, then everything Austin than have a second go around watching all the jokers week in and week out.
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05-01-2015 , 09:58 PM
Sounds fun. I've thought about doing the same with Brock since I don't want to invest in something ridic long but he has a ton of content and moments in his short time in the company. I have all of his matches and some of his first attacks already d/l'ed. I was doing it and did the first two months or so of his career but then shipped computer cross country and it got destroyed .

Would love to read, esp about Foley. His career was pretty long, went lots of places, and had tons of great moments.

A couple days ago I was watching a match somebody dubbed "one of the most violent nongimmicked matches" he'd ever seen. Got me to thinking what other matches could go on that list. First one I thought of was Mankind vs HBK at MindGames.

edit: match dubbed violent was Kobashi vs Misawa from 3/1/03.
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05-01-2015 , 10:40 PM
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Went to watch the next episode of RAW. They expect me to pay for this!?!??!?! Are you kidding?!?!?!?!

Can somebody pm me the site that has the AE stuff on it. PLEASE!!!??? If that video quality is ****, I'll just get the Network, honestly even though it's free again this month.

I have a theory that the watchwrestling site is LittleKurbioh's. The RAW's start on the same episode that he started his Mark Remark show.
What happened with the Network? Why are you freaking?
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05-01-2015 , 11:00 PM
Free April is over!!!!! The sky is falling!!!!

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05-01-2015 , 11:49 PM
Officially paying that $9.99. WW site sucked for audio quality (and video really).

I have to mention to that I'm enjoying DX a lot more now than when I was as a kid. What I remember from when I 17 when this happened is that it was ******ed to team up a low midcarder with HBK and thought some stuff was funny but mostly they had X-Pac heat from me. I didn't think HHH had much talent (my opinion on this hasn't changed much).
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05-02-2015 , 12:38 AM
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Took a break from AE Era watching to watch this classic:



Most definitely one of the sickest matches ever. I haven't watched it in a few months. One of my favorites so I def watch often. I found it more disturbing this time for some reason. Match should have definitely been cut short a few minutes after he got cut. The storytelling in this match and after the match is superb. Would recommend if you're not like Tony Schiavone and throw up at the site of blood (a highlight of Uncensored 95?).
Holy ****!!!!! How the hell did that match continue? The audience's reaction right after he bladed was awesome though. I said in another thread that Sgt. Slaughter's blade job in the alley fight with Pat Patterson was the worst I ever saw. That is now a distant second to this one
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05-02-2015 , 12:43 AM
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How the hell did that match continue?
Master staged a hostile takeover of the production truck.
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05-02-2015 , 12:45 AM
The feud DX had with the Hart foundation was good, but the Hart Foundation was really good and a great contrast for so many AE personas. I saw DX as kind of a one person stable at first because HHH seemed pretty close to a jobber to the stars level performer at the time, Rick Rude couldn't wrestle due to injury, and Chyna was...whatever Chyna is.
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05-02-2015 , 12:52 AM
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The feud DX had with the Hart foundation was good, but the Hart Foundation was really good and a great contrast for so many AE personas. I saw DX as kind of a one person stable at first because HHH seemed pretty close to a jobber to the stars level performer at the time, Rick Rude couldn't wrestle due to injury, and Chyna was...whatever Chyna is.
I didnt mention it in my other post, but I felt that DX's 2nd iteration with NAO, X-pac, and Chyna were a lot better than just HBK and HHH with Chyna. There were more actual in ring performers and HHH was becoming a much better performer as the leader than as HBK's sidekick
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05-02-2015 , 01:46 AM
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The feud DX had with the Hart foundation was good, but the Hart Foundation was really good and a great contrast for so many AE personas. I saw DX as kind of a one person stable at first because HHH seemed pretty close to a jobber to the stars level performer at the time, Rick Rude couldn't wrestle due to injury, and Chyna was...whatever Chyna is.
Yeah, I mean, when I say I'm enjoying DX this time around, it's because of HBK. I wasn't a fan of his growing up and wasn't invested in his stuff. Now looking at it, I think from what I've seen so far, his mic work was way above average and even not wrestling, he's great. I wouldn't say I have go away heat for HHH either, I think he's just a really good heel. The kind of guy you want to punch in the face.
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05-02-2015 , 02:53 AM
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Master staged a hostile takeover of the production truck.
I wore my Vince McMahon mask.

"Don't you ****ing cut you ****ers. Tell them to bleed some more"
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05-02-2015 , 02:56 AM
"Patterson! Come in here. I want you to go tell that Guerrero prick, that I want him to dig a blade so far into his head that he hits an artery. And tell JBL to flop around in it like it's me getting a beer bath."
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05-02-2015 , 03:12 AM
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Holy ****!!!!! How the hell did that match continue? The audience's reaction right after he bladed was awesome though. I said in another thread that Sgt. Slaughter's blade job in the alley fight with Pat Patterson was the worst I ever saw. That is now a distant second to this one
I'll recommend JBL vs Cena to you. I Quit match at Judgment Day 05 (I think. Def sometime in 05). Can you three guesses as to who "quits". Also, Orton/Mick at BackLash 2004.

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A couple days ago I was watching a match somebody dubbed "one of the most violent nongimmicked matches" he'd ever seen. Got me to thinking what other matches could go on that list. First one I thought of was Mankind vs HBK at MindGames.
Anybody have any recommendations for this? That is the only match I can really think of tbh...in WWF anyways. Cactus vs Vader in 93 on Saturday night in May of 93 where Cactus gets his nose broken is up there. 10 minutes of stiffness.
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05-02-2015 , 04:32 AM
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"one of the most violent nongimmicked matches" he'd ever seen. Got me to thinking what other matches could go on that list. First one I thought of was Mankind vs HBK at MindGames.

edit: match dubbed violent was Kobashi vs Misawa from 3/1/03.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a...lam-2005_sport
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05-02-2015 , 04:47 AM
Thanks for match Jim, gonna check it out tomorrow.

Another great violent match, Hardy vs Edge in a cage at Unforgiven 05. Top 3 cage match of all time.

edit: fast forwarded to that match to watch later and saw eddie. Really depressing. Truly a GOAT that had it all as a heel or face. Eddie.

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05-02-2015 , 04:51 AM
RAW 3/9/98

Starts off with a really enjoy 5 or so minute match between Farooq/Rock vs Shamrock/Blackman. Match ends by DQ. Good setup for a rematch that I hope
happens at some point.

Stone Cold with the good 'ole sit down strike.
JR: "Hope he's not out here too long. We have some great matches planned for tonight.". Matches that haven't been mentioned at all, lol.
Austin to Slaughter: "Get your ass up the ramp and get Vince, and that's an order!", LOL.
"Do you want me to become WWF champion?". Gold.
This is great, the first of Austin vs McMahon really and Austin vs The Authority (in b4 somebody says "uh uh" in their SCSA voice). Easily one of the best promos/segments of the entire AE.

Great final segment with HBK once again outsmarting Austin while Austin just showed that he's the baddest SOB in wrestling.

Nothing else good happened. However, nothing stood out as terrible. Goldust challenged Mero to a mixed tag and the NAO vs Foley/Funk was made a Dumpster match.
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05-02-2015 , 01:12 PM
Holy balls, the chainsaw Charley gimmick was the worst thing ever
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05-02-2015 , 01:22 PM
Watched Jericho/Stephanie last night because I like to torture myself before sleep. Most controversial show on the network my ass, unless talking about Steph's boobs in controversial. Literally almost every question was "remember how awesome that was?"

Only mildly disruptive thing he mentioned was A.J.'s tweet when Steph omitted giving her any credit for Give Divas a Chance.

Only thing I got out of that interview was that Jericho wants to bang Steph.
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