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When it comes to non-finishers, it's more of a "know it when you see it" thing. I don't know that I can offer a satisfying definition, but it's based on some combination of (1) how high-impact the move looks/seems; and (2) the level of devastation credibility the move has been given in kayfabe.

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09-02-2016 , 05:44 PM

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You say it wasn't built as anything but they at least mentioned that it was a signature move of Kenta Kobashi which was something. If anyone has watched Kobashi, they know that it isn't just a signature move of his, it's his end move. It wasn't even his finisher, it was a move he broke out when his finisher didn't beat his opponent and got desperate enough to use it. He used it a total of 7 times in his career and each time it ended the match.

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09-02-2016 , 09:49 PM

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This was my thought as well. I was going to use a quote from a politician whose name I can't remember right now. There were having a hearing on the pornography industry and when he was asked what constitutes pornography, he replied: "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it"

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09-02-2016 , 09:51 PM

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I'm going to estimate that at least 70% of the audience for that match had never heard of or at least had never seen a Kobashi match before he was mentioned the other night. Let alone knows of the history of that move.

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09-02-2016 , 10:25 PM

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Whomever said the burning hammer was never on tv. It used to be Tyler Reks finisher

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09-02-2016 , 10:30 PM

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Except Tyler Rek's finisher was actually an argentine facebuster that they called a Burning Hammer

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09-02-2016 , 10:32 PM

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I saw it in YouTube and it looked the same

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09-02-2016 , 10:59 PM

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That's from a SCOTUS opinion, though I think it's from the attempt to define obscenity.

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09-02-2016 , 11:45 PM

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That's from a SCOTUS opinion, though I think it's from the attempt to define obscenity.

I was close

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09-03-2016 , 01:15 PM

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Just a warning in case you're an idiot like me. I went to the wiki to see the schedule and it spoils next weeks episode.

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09-07-2016 , 10:25 PM

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Thoughts:

ZSJ was much better in the last 2 matches than the borefest that was his first round match, but I still think he's pretty overrated and his selling is superlol.

Noam Dar ****ing sucks.

Legitimately shocked at the result in the Swan/TJP match, Swan is awesome and really carried the match with his charisma and his selling abilities. That match happening directly after Zach Cena Jr shrugging off a match worth of damage targeting the knee is pretty funny.

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09-07-2016 , 11:37 PM

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So semis and finals next week?

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09-08-2016 , 09:19 AM

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I thought I saw somewhere that the final will be live. I figured they will show the semis next week then have the live final the following week

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09-08-2016 , 10:24 AM

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Semi finals and final are live next week.

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09-08-2016 , 10:34 AM

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I originally
Thought the finals would be on raw

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09-08-2016 , 10:42 AM

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Nah. Next week is 2 hours and live. I'm guessing there will be other matches on the card.

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09-08-2016 , 10:50 AM

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Or tons of video packages

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09-08-2016 , 10:59 AM

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Call me crazy, but I actually liked Noam Dar that match. Thought he did a great job. Sold much better than ZSJ.

Completely agree with your other two points.

I guess I'm on team Gran Metalik now.

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09-12-2016 , 09:18 PM

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I met a dude through work and long story short may end up at the finals Wed night. Potential epic trip report coming...

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09-14-2016 , 05:07 PM

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Heading out to the show; will post updates. Am cheering for TJ Perkins since my buddy knows him pretty well.

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09-14-2016 , 05:20 PM

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Sick

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09-14-2016 , 05:34 PM

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Awesome dude. Have fun!

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09-14-2016 , 08:33 PM

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It is sooooo small in here. So pumped.

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09-14-2016 , 08:45 PM

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This thing start at 9?

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09-14-2016 , 08:46 PM

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