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12-24-2014 , 03:41 PM
He was just trying to make Christmas fun again
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12-24-2014 , 03:51 PM
Kid should have finger poked Nash
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12-24-2014 , 04:20 PM
Did anybody read the comments?
"Clearly the Cops dont understand how Festivus Feats of Strength works"
I lol'd
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12-24-2014 , 04:26 PM
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Did they have to haul him to the pen in an ambulance because he blew his quad out?
They did, but it wasn't a regular ambulance, it was Diesel powered
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12-24-2014 , 04:28 PM
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Did anybody read the comments?
"Clearly the Cops dont understand how Festivus Feats of Strength works"
I lol'd
That's pretty awesome.
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12-24-2014 , 05:01 PM
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Who are we hoping gets the Rey memorial "**** you why are you not Daniel Bryan at #30" spot?
I don't think it matters as much if it's Roman and a couple of heels or guys the crowd really isn't that invested in......say Roman + Rollins + Russev or Harper or Rowan with Ziggler and Ambrose being long gone.

In that case he's probably fine, but if it looks like one of those guys can win it and don't because of Roman, then he might be in trouble.

I'm assuming they're gonna do something with Ambrose and Wyatt where they just brawl all over and eliminate each other, which is fine.
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12-24-2014 , 05:23 PM
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Del Rio has a bunch of MMA fights. He was actually pretty good as well. It was just weird that he would keep the mask on for them.
I don't really like to hate on anybody, but I wouldn't say he was good by any stretch. Granted it was about 10 years ago, but he didn't really beat anybody worth much, and his performances against people who were good left a lot to be desired. He did train with the Rua brothers though, so who knows what he could do.
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12-25-2014 , 09:42 AM
Only just watched last weeks raw. Not a spoiler but Jericho sucks now. I wish he would stop coming back, all he does is job and leave. Used to be one of my favourites too.

I think the only thing that will not suck is if cena beats lesnar, then rollins cashes in money in the bank right after the match, lesner f5's cena and lets rollins win. Then rollins can fight ambrose or reigns.

I just don't see ambrose or reigns being a threat to cena or lesner, so putting the belt on rollins makes the most sense.
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12-25-2014 , 11:19 AM
In that scenario would Rollins become a Paul heyman guy?
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12-25-2014 , 12:17 PM
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I just don't see ambrose or reigns being a threat to cena or lesner, so putting the belt on rollins makes the most sense.
The first part seems like the exact reason NOT to make someone into a world champion.
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12-25-2014 , 04:50 PM
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In that scenario would Rollins become a Paul heyman guy?
I was just thinking its because lesnar hates cena. I think the paul heyman guy thing only works for brock.

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The first part seems like the exact reason NOT to make someone into a world champion.
If that is the case then who could be champ? There is not really anyone on the roster who really makes sense.

They need to get the belt away from those guys and onto someone new. Nothing wrong with a transitional champ as long as it is done well.
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12-25-2014 , 07:11 PM
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If that is the case then who could be champ? There is not really anyone on the roster who really makes sense.
Cena, Lesnar, Orton, Bryan if he returns.

That's obviously just for now. They can and should build other guys up to that level, but unfortunately can't be bothered to. I actually don't think that Ambrose is far off though (Rollins is far off).

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They need to get the belt away from those guys and onto someone new.
Why?

I get the need to get it off of Lesnar if he isn't going to be any real part of the programming, since this is just damaging the belt in a different way than it damages the belt to put it on someone who isn't ready and then book it like it's an afterthought, but you can put it back on Cena or Orton and then actually build someone to that level instead of shrugging and putting the belt on someone, then seeing if they can get over at a main event level after the fact.
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12-25-2014 , 10:21 PM
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Cena, Lesnar, Orton, Bryan if he returns.

That's obviously just for now. They can and should build other guys up to that level, but unfortunately can't be bothered to. I actually don't think that Ambrose is far off though (Rollins is far off).



Why?

I get the need to get it off of Lesnar if he isn't going to be any real part of the programming, since this is just damaging the belt in a different way than it damages the belt to put it on someone who isn't ready and then book it like it's an afterthought, but you can put it back on Cena or Orton and then actually build someone to that level instead of shrugging and putting the belt on someone, then seeing if they can get over at a main event level after the fact.
Just watched the HHH documentary they were showing on the Network. He made a point about "the man making the title" vs. the other way around. Very much in line with what you're discussing above.
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12-25-2014 , 10:28 PM
Exactly. Get the guy over then give him the title, don't give him the title hoping it will get him over.
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12-25-2014 , 11:57 PM
Agree completely with the last comment.
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12-26-2014 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Cena, Lesnar, Orton, Bryan if he returns.

That's obviously just for now. They can and should build other guys up to that level, but unfortunately can't be bothered to. I actually don't think that Ambrose is far off though (Rollins is far off).



Why?

I get the need to get it off of Lesnar if he isn't going to be any real part of the programming, since this is just damaging the belt in a different way than it damages the belt to put it on someone who isn't ready and then book it like it's an afterthought, but you can put it back on Cena or Orton and then actually build someone to that level instead of shrugging and putting the belt on someone, then seeing if they can get over at a main event level after the fact.
Other than Bryan, I am bored of those guys being at the top, they are boring and it has been done to death.

Building them up first is the better idea, I am just keen for change and would rather see it sooner than later.

Ambrose kinda feels like Austin 2.0, such a shame we are in the PG era, think he would shine much more in the Attitude area.

I think Rollins has the potential and while not ready now, I think he could so a fine job as a cowardly heel champ, he even has his own stooges.

It does suck that there are just not enough credible threats.
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12-26-2014 , 11:43 AM
did you seriously compare Dean Ambrose to Stone cold?

Ambrose doesn't even have a move, not even ONE move, that can get the crowd riled up. He is one of the sloppiest workers currently in WWE. I realize it's his "style" to be unorthodox, but it also kills the fans ability to get behind him because they can't anticipate his moves.

Ambrose needs a steady moveset and a legit finisher before you even compare him to a poor man's Stone Cold. Does Ambrose have talent? Hell yeah he does, but right now he hasn't even scratched the surface of his ability in the ring and on the mic.

Seth Rollins is the total package and he works great in any role, heel or face. He should be the next "Cena" down the line. It should be a complete 180 with Ambrose becoming a career heel and Rollins turning face. Those are better roles for them moving forward into their careers. Fans will pop huge for Rollins' spotfest and Ambrose has the bizarre moveset of a weirdo heel like Pillman.
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12-26-2014 , 12:34 PM
I haven't watched much since football started but it's clear that Vince & Co are setting up for Reigns, Rollins and Ambrose to be the future.

Reigns = Power guy that overcomes every obstacle = Cena v2.0

Rollins = Undersized guy that is a credible threat to beat anyone b/c of his skills = HBK v2.0

Ambrose = Borderline nut job that will stop at nothing to win = Austin v2.0
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12-26-2014 , 12:50 PM
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Other than Bryan, I am bored of those guys being at the top, they are boring and it has been done to death.

Building them up first is the better idea, I am just keen for change and would rather see it sooner than later.

Ambrose kinda feels like Austin 2.0, such a shame we are in the PG era, think he would shine much more in the Attitude area.

I think Rollins has the potential and while not ready now, I think he could so a fine job as a cowardly heel champ, he even has his own stooges.

It does suck that there are just not enough credible threats.
I'm just not sure what good it does to put a hunk of metal around their waist if it isn't meaningful anyway.

Again, Ambrose is very much over and might be ready for it if just given the proper build toward a title match that he wins; I don't think he falls very far short, but again it should only ever be done if Vince is actually willing to let him be 1a to Cena's 1b. Rollins holding the belt in his current status would be completely ridiculous to me since he gets the crowd reaction of a midcarder.
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12-26-2014 , 12:55 PM
In this scenario it seems Bray Wyatt is the undertaker 2.0


.....WWE's ****ed
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12-26-2014 , 02:11 PM
Belt being on Lesnar doesn't bother me that much. It's not ideal but I think wwe has done a good job working with the situation. He looks super strong when he is around, the main feud/storyline has been cena vs Rollins fighting over who is the number one contender, heyman has been great etc
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12-26-2014 , 03:39 PM
I think I'm coming around to the Ambrose = Piper view more than Ambrose = Stone Cold. It kind of makes sense. He's more crazy than angry really or at least that's how they want to portray him. Unfortunately the other thing that makes that comparison tick is that he seems more a 1A at this point than a 1.

If Brock were staying around I think it would be awesome if they did a double turn with him and Reigns. Kind of like the Survivor Series where Vince turned on Foley for Rock or the WM where he Aided Austin. A heel Reigns could rejuvinate the Authority angle and a Brock Lesnar on the warpath with the crowd behind him could be awesome.

EDIT: Reigns can also hide some faults inside of another group for a while also.
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12-26-2014 , 10:22 PM
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did you seriously compare Dean Ambrose to Stone cold?

Ambrose doesn't even have a move, not even ONE move, that can get the crowd riled up. He is one of the sloppiest workers currently in WWE. I realize it's his "style" to be unorthodox, but it also kills the fans ability to get behind him because they can't anticipate his moves.

Ambrose needs a steady moveset and a legit finisher before you even compare him to a poor man's Stone Cold. Does Ambrose have talent? Hell yeah he does, but right now he hasn't even scratched the surface of his ability in the ring and on the mic.

Seth Rollins is the total package and he works great in any role, heel or face. He should be the next "Cena" down the line. It should be a complete 180 with Ambrose becoming a career heel and Rollins turning face. Those are better roles for them moving forward into their careers. Fans will pop huge for Rollins' spotfest and Ambrose has the bizarre moveset of a weirdo heel like Pillman.
You must have missed this move

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12-26-2014 , 10:35 PM
It's Irridium Dog. He misses a lot.
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12-27-2014 , 02:43 AM
the newest rumor is they want Roman Reigns to break CM Punk's title reign record as soon as he wins the strap at wm31. Talk about being all-in on a guy. Also that would completely bury Seth Rollins as he has the MITB briefcase...
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