1. Hmmm that's a good question. Once one world champion has wrestled, you can't use another holding the same belt on your card if they were that champion at the time.

2. It doesn't count as using someone up. Again, promos/segments being picked have to be standing alone rather than directly tied in as part of an ongoing match segment...so you can pick the Man of 1004 holds promo, but you can't pick "With a tear in my eye"...that's just attached to the '92 Rumble.

I mean, while it doesn't count as using someone up, I'd hope that a person would aspire to doing it in a way that makes sense. With that said, I won't make any rules in that regard.

Its your draft so you have the final say, but i think the way we did it in the WM draft where a title can be in more than one match but can only be defended once makes drafting a bit easier and there isnt any particular reason why it cant work that way imo. Like pretend there are two titles for some reason and only one is being defended or pretend the holder who isnt defending it doesnt have the title within the card being drafted similar to how matches from the 80s can immediately follow matches from last year with it not being seen as "unrealistic" if you see what i mean. Like its a rule that doesnt have a defined purpose imo.

On a similar note how are you handling guest referees and enforcers? For example can Ken Shamrock referee in a match and then wrestle another match elsewhere on the card. Same could go for run ins, like i remember some match where Austin ran in during HHH vs Rock and helped Rock win in some way, can that be drafted alongside some match he actually wrestled in?

This didn't totally sway me, but I'd listen to it and change my ruling if the majority agrees with this. So...others' opinions are welcome.

Yeah, same as promos, you can do more than one thing on a card. If I did that I'd want to be able to explain away why Shamrock is doing two totally unrelated things, but in any case there's no limitation.

I'm kind of with Phil on the champions thing. We can suspend disbelief enough to have an 80s match right after a 90s match - I think that we can further suspend it to the point of pretending that the champ doesn't actually have the championship if he's a part of a 6-man tag but not defending the belt.

I think common sense should rule the world in the promo / special guest ref / enforcer camp. I mean, if I draft the Shockmaster promo, I should be able to still have Flair, but using the 2010 TNA version of Flair doesn't make any sense. If I'm going to have guys pull double duty, it will at least be in the same real fed and within a relatively short time span so as it might make sense IRL.

I agree, but i dont think this needs a rule as its something people can qualitatively judge at the end when evaluating each other's drafts.

I think that provided its not a situation that obviously needs a rule (like the double duty and not having a title defended more than once on a card rules) it should just be the decision of the drafter.

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Totally agree.

I was just pointing out my logic. And, not that we're going to be voting on this thing, but it is something I will dock people on in my final analysis of their card.

appreciate the offer but no ty.

I need your youtubing skills to help me find my 70's and 80's matches

I'm sorry to break it to you, but...

I want this to get going. I can't wait to post some facemelters.

Send harassing PMs to whoever is up in the other draft. I feel like I shouldn't stomp on their ending by firing this one up yet. I'm anxious to get going on it too though, and suddenly that other draft is moving like a glacier after its brisk early pace.

I just picked so we are almost done with round 7

...lies. hit me up if you need some editing and i'll see what i can do.

Talk about your all-time backfires.

Im hoping to melt some faces with my main event.

Out of interest, what dropped the time limit from 2hrs and 45 min down to 2 dead?

I thought of a few matches i wanted to draft earlier and ended up running out of time after 3 of them in one combo, lol. I assume the average card will be 5 matches which is pretty short.

Keed posted some stats about bell-to-bell time in actual PPVs, and 1:45-2:00 appears to be where it's at for standard three hour shows.

A quick scan of this recent Royal Rumble has it at less than 1:40 in bell-to-bell match time.

Make it longer since this is going to be our Wrestlemania

Sweet I love the rule about entrances, promos, and stuff that happens before and after the match not counting. It makes HHH and Taker matches easier to draft because we don't have to count the 1 and 1/2 hour entrances against our time.

I suppose I could add some time, but it wouldn't be too much. Even four hour WrestleMania last year was only 127 minutes of match time. WrestleMania the year before it was only 113.

I'll up it to a maximum time of 2 hours, 15 minutes.

Weee rungood at being #1 pick.

LKJ, I'm gonna be at UKIPT Galway from tomorrow til Monday, shall I PM you my pick/write up, and you can just post that once the WM draft is completed?

And then obv just skip me after that if it gets to the end of round 2 before I'm back.

Hempy, given that the other draft is very near to completion now, I say go ahead and post your pick whenever you want to. I won't start running the clock on this draft until tomorrow, but people can go ahead and start making picks at their leisure.

OK then.

So for me personally, there's only 3 or possibly 4 matches I think are both good enough, and valuable from a draft-perspective to take 1st overall. With that in mind, and recent results in other competitions on this forum, and because it's also the shortest of my shortlist, I select.....

That's what I would have went with as the #1 pick as well - if only because of its popularity in the tournament and my fear of looking like an idiot.

LKJ - Can we get a final ruling on the championship thing - one APPEARANCE by a champ, or one DEFENSE by a champ?

Alright, as commish I'll just keep it to one defense by a champion of a given title on a card.

As one of the participants I'll negatively judge using more than one champion of a given title, but it's allowed.

Thanks for the ruling LKJ. Makes sense to me.