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06-12-2015 , 10:50 PM
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"The view never changes" is a fantastic promo that I just saw for the first time and that first promo in dwetzel's link is just as good.
I remember seeing that as a kid when it aired originally and it was the Dusty promo that stuck with me, even more than "Hard Times". He seemed to be heavy-handed when he had the book and left some bitter workers, but man, he could put butts in the seats.
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06-12-2015 , 11:06 PM
I posted something quick yesterday because it was a real bad day that turned ****ty when I heard this. Now that I have been able to wrap my head around it, Id like to say something else.

I remember 10 years or so ago talking to my dad the day Wilt Chamberlain died. He was really broken up about and he told me that was his childhood hero. I really didnt understand at the time what he was feeling until yesterday. Dusty, along with Mike Schmidt and Rickey Henderson were my childhood heroes and now I know what it feels like to lose one. It sucks.

Eventhough I lived deep in WWF territory, the highlight of my week was the 6:05 WTBS World Championship Wrestling show. Dusty seemed to do a promo every week that would have me hypnotized. But when they would advertise the upcoming dates I was always crushed when Philly was never on the list. I really didnt understand the territory system back in the early 80's. But finally JCP started to expand my dream came true. Three of my fondest memories as a child were the three times I got to see him wrestle at the dump known as the Philadelphia Civic Center. Once against Tully Blanchard in a barbed wire match, once against Flair for the title, and once with the Road Warriors when they were the 6 man champs.

I think Im going to pour myself a big glass of iced tea and watch the Dusty Rhodes documentary on the Network. RIP Dusty.
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06-13-2015 , 12:38 AM
I unfortunately just missed Rhodes' era as I got into wrestling in 87. I do wish there were a lot more footage of his and all the old timers. I've never watched the old Starrcade's but watching Rhodes/Flair from 84 now and going to watch their 85 match next. Truly a sad time in wrestling. A true legend of wrestling and a seemingly great guy.

I'll always remember his role in the first wargames match and how the crowd just became absolutely unglued anytime he did anything and such empathy on the fans faces when he was inevitably outnumbered and worked over. I still call the July 4th 87 wargames the best ever.

Edit: nice to hear Solie on the call here. Another legend that I was broken up when he passed. Another guy that was on his way out when I started watching. I remember how great it was to watch the Saturday morning NWA show because even as a 7 year old I knew he was special.

Last edited by .isolated; 06-13-2015 at 12:47 AM.
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06-13-2015 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AJD804

Eventhough I lived deep in WWF territory, the highlight of my week was the 6:05 WTBS World Championship Wrestling show.
The mothership!
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06-13-2015 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AJD804
I think Im going to pour myself a big glass of iced tea and watch the Dusty Rhodes documentary on the Network. RIP Dusty.
Could you link this? I looked through the original docs and didn't see any Dusty doc.

Starrcade 84 match was fine. LOL getting celebs involved for **** endings.
Starrcade 85 match was MUCH better. Enjoyed it a lot.
Rewatched "Hard Times" promo. Damn, what an intense promo. Awesome.
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06-13-2015 , 07:36 AM
Thought this image should be itt.

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06-13-2015 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Could you link this? I looked through the original docs and didn't see any Dusty doc.

Starrcade 84 match was fine. LOL getting celebs involved for **** endings.
Starrcade 85 match was MUCH better. Enjoyed it a lot.
Rewatched "Hard Times" promo. Damn, what an intense promo. Awesome.
It is in the WWE Beyond the Ring section all the way at the bottom
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06-13-2015 , 01:07 PM
Enjoyed this read.

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Busted Open recently spoke to WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair, who discussed the recent tragic passing of fellow Hall of Famer Dusty Rhodes. Below are some highlights.

Flair on his initial reaction to Rhodes: “If Dusty Rhodes came on the scene tomorrow at 25 years of age Vince McMahon wouldn’t have enough money to pay the guy. He was that good… in the ring and on the mic. They don’t make them like him anymore – he was that good. And he was a genius. I used to say “Hey what are you doin’ man?” and he used to say “I’m genius-ing”(laughs) It used to crack me up the things that came out of his mouth. He was genius-ing so… that’s it, you know? We made music for 30 years together. I started my career idolizing him and … the good thing about this, if there is a good thing to it, is that I spent about 4 hours with him on Tuesday at the Performance Center in Orlando when I was done there visiting my daughter and the last thing he said to me was … pissed off that I was going to see LeBron James and he wasn’t, ha. He was like “Get out of my office… go see LeBron man, I don’t care (laughs). I said “I’ll wave to you from courtside … and then I got the call yesterday so … we had so much fun together. He loved John Elway, I like Lawrence Taylor. He liked the Celtics, I liked the Lakers. He liked the University of Texas and I liked Oklahoma. We just went round and round on everything, it was tremendous. He loved sports and he loved life.”

On his first memories with Dusty: “I idolized him. I was being trained by Verne Gagne but Dusty and Dick, his partner Dick Murdoch were in Minneapolis wrestling and the charisma was too much and he liked me. I had just gotten married and I wasn’t even booked in the towns and I would drive all the way … 300 miles… somewhere in South Dakota just to hang out with those guys and I wasn’t even booked. No wonder I couldn’t stay married. “How much money did ya make?” “Well, uhhhhhh” (laughs). Jesus, I just couldn’t get enough of him. He was too much man. Then he moved into an apartment, he and Murdoch did. The nicest apartment complex in Minneapolis at the time .. 3 blocks from my mamas house. Ah jeez, it was just the best. All they had was two saddles, some blankets and they kept their mule in the apartment. It was the best. I was in the business 3 weeks and I went to Japan with them and they made me carry their bags with them everywhere for 3 solid weeks. Threw my clothes out the window of the top story of the hotels… took a fire extinguisher to my room. Murdoch stabbed me for taking one of his French fries. And we would get on a train or driving or riding the bus and all Dusty would go “Dear John, I hate to write you…” as if my wife was leaving me or something (laughs). Nobody can say I didn’t pay the price when I started man.”

On Dusty as a wrestler: “They are never going to say he was a great technician but he could work! He knew his limitations but I’m gonna tell you right now… I wrestled Dusty Rhodes at least 300 one hour draws. Dusty wasn’t a 10 minute guy. We wrestled hour draws and I think the defining moment in our careers was that I was Charlotte and Dusty was from Tampa Florida… Originally from Texas … but our careers were established in Southern parts of the world and I wrestled Dusty in the Checker Dome in St. Louis for Sam Muchnick’s retirement… 20,000 people, it wasn’t the ‘Briscos and the Funks’ … It wasn’t Harley … it wasn’t Brody and me. It was me and Dusty Rhodes — that’s how big that feud got. It got World-Wide attention on TBS. And the Horsemen against Dusty and The Road Warriors – Dusty and Nikita and Sting… The War Games … all of that stuff he created. Starrcade… he created all that stuff. That was all Dusty Rhodes, nobody else thought of that. And those War Games, man, we did 42 of them in a row. That’s cuttin’ yourself every night 42 days in a row. Of course me and him… we did it every day anyways, so it didn’t matter but it was work but we had so much fun that it didn’t seem like work … and everything was sold out.”

Flair on Dusty’s influence on the younger generation: “The reason he was at NXT, which worked out being a huge advantage for people going through it is, because of his phlebitis, which was, you know, he’s been iIl with different things off and on for years but whatever caught up with him this time was much more severe than phlebitis, but he couldn’t fly more than an hour at a time without landing and walking around, even when he came to WrestleMania this year he had to go through Dallas and walk around for 3 hours before he could fly the last 3 hours. He would be up in Stamford, right. Him and Vince healed everything and Vince… there’s no doubting Dusty’s genius. His main direction was teaching the kids, helping them learn how to be confident and helping them learn how to carry themselves and be fluid on the microphone. Some kids never get that but it wasn’t because he wasn’t there and, I mean, he was the best. My daughter is so crushed, of course she has known Dusty since she was born, you know, when we were living together in Charlotte. He bought a car, I bought a car. He bought a new house, I bought a new house. That was living the dream. Anyway… my daughter is just crushed over it so she’s up in Cleveland tonight, where I was last night, then she is in Columbus tomorrow and I’m on my way right now to Orlando from Tampa to do a documentary on Dusty right now at the Performance Center. I think they are going to have the funeral Wednesday in Tampa and I would expect a huge turnout. He’s the guy… everybody loves Dusty Rhodes, that’s just the way it was and I wouldn’t expect anything less.”
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06-13-2015 , 09:43 PM
I remember being very close to taking Dusty in the original wrestling draft. One of the things that struck me doing the research was finding out that he would regularly receive the largest pop of the night on the house show circuit during his WWF run, even eclipsing Hogan and Warrior. Even with that ridiculous gimmick, his charisma overpowered everything.
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06-13-2015 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AJD804
It is in the WWE Beyond the Ring section all the way at the bottom
It looks like it has been removed since yesterday. I have heard that after RAW hey will be debuting a new documentary on Dusty, so maybe it is a redo of the original with more of his recent behind the scenes work
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06-13-2015 , 11:01 PM
He's wearing a hat in a lot of photos, that's because these maniacs always carried a razor blade on them and would slice open their forehead at the correct moment and bleed like a pig for the audience. His forehead is covered in razor blade scars. LOL @ wrestlers, those old-timers sure were nutso.

Wow, there's even a term for it and a wikipedia page - "blading".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bladin...l_wrestling%29

"Some wrestlers like Abdullah the Butcher,[7] Dusty Rhodes, New Jack, and Devon Hughes (Brother Devon / D-Von Dudley) have massive, disfiguring scars on their heads from frequently blading throughout their careers."
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06-14-2015 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
I unfortunately just missed Rhodes' era as I got into wrestling in 87. I do wish there were a lot more footage of his and all the old timers. I've never watched the old Starrcade's but watching Rhodes/Flair from 84 now and going to watch their 85 match next. Truly a sad time in wrestling. A true legend of wrestling and a seemingly great guy.

I'll always remember his role in the first wargames match and how the crowd just became absolutely unglued anytime he did anything and such empathy on the fans faces when he was inevitably outnumbered and worked over. I still call the July 4th 87 wargames the best ever.

Edit: nice to hear Solie on the call here. Another legend that I was broken up when he passed. Another guy that was on his way out when I started watching. I remember how great it was to watch the Saturday morning NWA show because even as a 7 year old I knew he was special.
Now I feel old.
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06-14-2015 , 04:42 AM
Dusty was my second round pick (34th overall) in the first wrestling draft.

Here's what I wrote at the time.

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‘The American Dream’ Dusty Rhodes is one of the most charismatic wrestlers of all-time.

Originally a member of the heel tag team ‘The Texas Outlaws’ with Dick Murdoch, Rhodes became a huge face in the mid-70s in Florida. However, his success spread nation-wide during an era in which very few could make such a claim. He main evented for the WWWF in Madison Square Garden and for other territories around the country as a special attraction.

He was given a short 5-day reign as NWA world champion in 1979. However, it was on June 24, 1981 when Dusty Rhodes won his second NWA world title that he claimed the spot as #1 performer in the industry. The fans reaction to his victory is incredible.

On the mic, Rhodes is easily among the elite. His ability to sell-out an arena or PPV simply with a promo is extraordinary.

During the 1980s wrestling boom, Dusty played the #1 face in the NWA against heel champion Ric Flair. Together, they main evented two Starrcades and a Great American Bash. At the Bash, Rhodes won the last of his three NWA world titles.

In the ring, Dusty was far better than his common-man physique would indicate. He regularly had long matches with Flair and other greats of the late 70s and early 80s.
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06-14-2015 , 01:48 PM
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On the mic, Rhodes is easily among the elite.
I keep hearing this, but I really don't understand why. Not being a native English speaker, I have a really tough time understanding him. Guess I am missing out a lot because of that.
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06-15-2015 , 08:01 AM
I find it really weird that I feel pretty distraught about Dusty dying so I had to find some more stuff and found stuff from tonight.

Dusty tribute from preshow:


Renee tries so hard to pull herself together a couple minutes after being put on the spot when the above video finished and she was sobbing.


Opening of MitB:


Steen looking like he's going to lose it:





R.I.P. "The American Dream"
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06-15-2015 , 09:32 AM
06-15-2015 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Loce
I keep hearing this, but I really don't understand why. Not being a native English speaker, I have a really tough time understanding him. Guess I am missing out a lot because of that.
I don't blame you for this viewpoint. Charisma is at least 50% being a certain man for a certain time. Austin was perfect for the dgaf angry white boys of the 90s. Rock captured the snark factor of the turn of the millennium. Hogan and Flair were idols for the excessive 80s. They all had "it" but we're catapulted by circumstance.

Dusty's circumstantial popularity is hard to describe for someone who isn't blue collar at the least and maybe southern as well. He lacked the polish that so many "superstars" have used. And in that way he was the Everyman hero a lot of the wrestling audience could relate to. By being booked as a loser who kept fighting he was perfect for his demographic with the 70s and 80s seeing collapses of unions and outsourcing of labor. He was easy to root for because he was one of his audience. A little fat. A bit uncouth. But dedicated and passionate.

That didn't play so well for a bigger audience, though I would argue Daniel Bryan's character is more or less a version of today's Dusty without the charisma.

And it's not hard to see why others in the business are so shaken. They essentially identify with his character as well as the man. By all accounts Dusty lived pretty close to his gimmick. So I get that too.
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06-15-2015 , 11:37 PM
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Charisma is at least 50% being a certain man for a certain time.
I can see what you are saying but I think charisma is more being something people can relate to and also having something people want to have. Most people (today and yesterday) can relate to being angry at their boss and can relate to being angry at unfair and corrupt institutions, hence Austin. People can relate to "Hard Times" and not being in as good of shape as the hardcore fitness freak at your job, but still working hard much of the time. Hence Dusty Rhodes. And people wanted to be as articulate and athletic and as charming and as popular as Austin and Rhodes. Sure, they had a certain narrow demographic that was even more likely to favor them, but they had broader appeal as well.
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06-15-2015 , 11:53 PM
I wasn't going to mention anything but since mooro did, I'll just say that Bryan has an insane amount of charisma for the reasons that mooro brought up.
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06-16-2015 , 12:03 AM
His special on the Network is excellent. Worth the watch. Be prepared to shed a tear.
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06-17-2015 , 10:20 AM
[QUOTE=.isolated;47258861]His special on the Network is excellent. Worth the watch. Be prepared to shed a tear.[/


Can't believe they left off the promo he cut with his son
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06-28-2015 , 04:28 AM
This is horrible, he had quite a long innings for being such a big fella especially within the wrestling industry

I tore up a bit when they replayed his sons HOF intro speech

A true legend
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06-28-2015 , 10:13 AM
RIP Dusty
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