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03-24-2016 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Chances HHH just doesn't want the last image of him being pinned to end WM?
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Originally Posted by therightdeal
HHH does not want to job to someone fans do not connect with.

It is clear as day from that.
I'm reading this as more of a "HHH/Vince don't want Wrestlemania to end with their #1 face getting booed after winning the title" rather than "HHH doesn't want to do a job".

Having Shane/Taker go on last alleviates the problem of Roman winning the title to close out the show.

(Of course, it creates a ****ton of other problems)
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03-24-2016 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by therightdeal
HHH does not want to job to someone fans do not connect with.

It is clear as day from that.
I think this spoils that the plan is roman winning clean, and H couldn't give a **** about jobbing now that he has serious skin in the game of how the company actually performs. Hes smart enough to know this current plan ends with Roman closing Wrestlemania to at best no reaction from 100k people and at worst booed into oblivion by 100k people and neither of the scenarios are good
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03-24-2016 , 10:18 AM
How can Vince fire Taker if Shane takes over the company? Pretty glaring plot hole.
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03-24-2016 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
How can Vince fire Taker if Shane takes over the company? Pretty glaring plot hole.
Even if he does, Taker's certainly come back from worse.
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03-24-2016 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
How can Vince fire Taker if Shane takes over the company? Pretty glaring plot hole.
In a storyline chock full of plot holes, this one is actually explainable. He doesn't get control of the whole company, on RAW. It was Vince who equated controlling RAW to controlling the whole company.
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03-24-2016 , 10:33 AM
Death being one surely.
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03-24-2016 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AJD804
In a storyline chock full of plot holes, this one is actually explainable. He doesn't get control of the whole company, on RAW. It was Vince who equated controlling RAW to controlling the whole company.
Doesn't that make controlling Raw pointless, then?

Shane could basically build the entire show around Kevin Owens and promise him PPV main events. But since Vince controls Smackdown and the PPVs, he can feature Fandango vs Zack Ryder 3 hour iron man matches on the PPVs instead. And there isn't anything Shane can do about it?
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03-24-2016 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
Doesn't that make controlling Raw pointless, then?

Shane could basically build the entire show around Kevin Owens and promise him PPV main events. But since Vince controls Smackdown and the PPVs, he can feature Fandango vs Zack Ryder 3 hour iron man matches on the PPVs instead. And there isn't anything Shane can do about it?
I think you just came up with the main story line for at least the next six months, culminating in...

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a Fandango/Zack Ryder/Heath Slater/special returning superstar Eugene vs. Owens/Cesaro/Ziggler/Big Show at Survivor Series where naturally the Smackdown superstars win when Big Show turns on his team, thereby allowing Vince to regain full control of the company.
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03-24-2016 , 11:24 AM
The bottom line is that the Shane storyline doesn't make sense. They have worded things in a confusing manner either because they are confused as well, or because they are obfuscating intentionally out of hope that people will just be blinded by Shane's return, the aura of the Undertaker and Wrestlemania, etc. and won't worry about it.
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03-24-2016 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
Doesn't that make controlling Raw pointless, then?

Shane could basically build the entire show around Kevin Owens and promise him PPV main events. But since Vince controls Smackdown and the PPVs, he can feature Fandango vs Zack Ryder 3 hour iron man matches on the PPVs instead. And there isn't anything Shane can do about it?
Since I don't feel like going too far down the kayfabe rabbit hole, I will just say that your question brings us back to my first statement that this is a storyline with a lot of plot holes. Thinking about it too much will not only make your head hurt, it will also bring up more questions and plot holes.

I think it's that reason why the most likely outcome is Taker goes over. It really is the only way to have all of this nonsense go away.
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03-24-2016 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
I'm reading this as more of a "HHH/Vince don't want Wrestlemania to end with their #1 face getting booed after winning the title" rather than "HHH doesn't want to do a job".

Having Shane/Taker go on last alleviates the problem of Roman winning the title to close out the show.

(Of course, it creates a ****ton of other problems)
This mirrors my reaction.
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03-24-2016 , 12:19 PM
If they had some type of elaborate long drawn out angle that would build from the Taker/Shane match then absolutely making it the main event is what's best for business



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03-24-2016 , 12:20 PM
I thought the Rock cutting a 40 minute promo was going to be the main event?
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03-24-2016 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MediocrePlayer2.0
If they had some type of elaborate long drawn out angle that would build from the Taker/Shane match then absolutely making it the main event is what's best for business
This has always been my biggest problem with the match. It should've taken place over months with Shane actually controlling RAW. Instead everything was thrown together in one segment where it's totally illogical for Shane to even agree to a match. It's incredibly stupid.
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03-24-2016 , 12:59 PM
Don't think it's possible to come up with a worse IC title match.

Half of the guys in it are wrestlers who were LITERALLY acknowledged as jobbers (Owens hand picked worst wrestlers on the roster) on this week's Raw. Like how do they expect anyone to take that match seriously?
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03-24-2016 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
  • HHH (c) vs Reigns: WWE Title
  • Taker vs Shane (Hell in a Cell)
  • Lesnar vs Ambrose (Street Fight)
  • Charlotte (c) vs Becky Lynch vs Banks: Divas Title
  • New Day (c) vs League of Nations: Tag Team Title
  • IC Ladder match (Owens (c) /Miz/Ziggler/Zayn/Stardust/Ryder/Sin Cara)
  • Kalisto (c) vs Ryback: US Title
  • Usos vs Dudleyz
  • Natalya/Paige/Foxy/Brie vs Lana/Tamina/Naomi/TBD (See spoiler for Superstars spoilers concerning this match)
  • ARMBAR (Andre Roussimoff Memorial BAttle Royal)
Completely forgot about Jericho/Styles.
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03-24-2016 , 06:59 PM
Wait, usos dudleys with nothing on the line is a match?

Why?
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03-24-2016 , 07:07 PM
Fill out the pre show?
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03-24-2016 , 07:30 PM
Who the hell is gonna be in the battle royal?
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03-24-2016 , 07:31 PM
I gotta believe Usos vs. Dudleyz is on the preshow with how awful The Usos have been presented over the last 3-4 weeks.

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Who the hell is gonna be in the battle royal?
Social Outcasts, Big Show (my pick to win again), Kane, Neville. Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. They're just guesses on my part but they seem to be locks iyam.
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03-24-2016 , 07:34 PM
Neville is injured so no dice
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03-24-2016 , 07:34 PM
Big Show, Kane, Wyatt family, R-Truth, Goldust. Yes, I'm excited too.
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03-24-2016 , 07:42 PM
Jack Swagger, Fandango, Damien Sandow, Mark Henry?


LOL
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03-24-2016 , 07:49 PM
They shortened Titus's suspension so that it lapses before Mania, right? He's probably in. But yeah it's a sad state of affairs.
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03-24-2016 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by darO
Neville is injured so no dice
Ah, yes. How could I forget that gruesome injury . Poor guy just missing that paycheck. He was probably going to get into the ladder match and not the battle royal.
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