LOL

that clip is outrageously good.

LOL, thanks for posting. I can't stop watching it.

Seth Green a.k.a. Chris Griffin hosting RAW tonight, I'm not sure what to think, but how about Robot Chicken instead of commercials one-time?

Man Jericho rules. Starting the Edge face turn already.

We desperately need some heel commentary here.

God legacy look ridiculous, im starting to hate them now, its the whole lets make 2 clones of randy orton, lets all walk slow to the ring like randy does, lets all stare like randy does, lets all suck big donkey d...well you get the point. At some point they gotta let Cody and Ted develop their own mannerisms and styles. otherwise you got a recipe for X-pac heat on your hands imo. I know im ranting, but the whole Legacy concept lost all momentum at WM25 imo.

Oh and another thing, why after over a decade of wrestling in WWE, does anybody bother trying to perform a back-body drop on HHH, Orton, who is WWE champion and has wrestled HHH how many times now? tried it in tonights main event, and it just does my head in how they never seem to evolve or adapt, just once when HHH is goin for his facebuster, can someone counter it into an atomic drop or spinebuster. Cos it seems like all 5 guys in tonights main event have been wresting the same match for about 2 years now.

In other news, after watching them in just 2 matches i'm now a Hart Dynasty mark, but considering i grew up in the Bret, Owen, British Bulldog era i'm guessing i wasn't such a hard sell. Hearing that Tyson Kidd was the last person to be trained by Stu Hart. Watching DH Smith do that suplex where they hold the opponent on their shoulders for ages that his dad used to do kinda brought it all flooding back. Ah good times.

Funny how we talk of X-Pac heat nowadays, i was watching WWE vintage just before Raw came on sky tonight and they showed this match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7seP5xLYug , which was the main event on Raw back in 1994, now i'm not saying this was in any way "epic"(there's a botch at 4.40 of part 2, but im sure thats 123s fault anyway, he seems to overjump to the side, anyway i digress), but contrast it to a modern day Raw main event. Notice how there's barely any punches thrown to the face. the match just has an awesome rhythm to it. Bret truly was an artist the like i fear we'll never see again, Greatest of all time for me AINEC.

Finally back in NY, watching RAW for first time in a month and it ****ing sucks. Now I have to find a way to review all the cm punk goodness Ive missed.

+1 to that hitman crush.
+2 to raw stinking last night.

Raw is nothing right now. Wake me up when Chavo isnt jobbing to Horny and Orton isnt made to look pathetically weak for no reason whatsoever. Oh and when Cena isnt superman capable of being thrown into a spotlight then wrestle and win in a submission match against Big Slow one month later.

ROH and Smackdown is where its at right now for wrestling. Btw, if you guys havent seen any of the new ROH show its on youtube under ROHBrazil (with permission from the company).

For a good taster, here is 4 of the best in the company in a 32 minute match (parts 2 and 3 can be found on the right):
Pt1

Id argue thats not even close to their best match in just this show on HDNet, and thats not even getting into the PPVs they put on. Love wrestling, love ROH. Love crappy soap opera storylines with the same tired old matches in between love Raw.

Also, yay for heel turn Punk. See, the very best thing in WWE right now was created in ROH back in like 2005

Mike,

Legacy does suck balls. The trouble is they have booked them to be weak because they dont want to have Cena and Hunter, the two biggest merch sellers on Raw, to look weak. I mean the times that Batista single handedly took out Legacy and Orton is beyond ridiculous. They were booked from pretty much day 1 to be equal in ability to Shane and Vince so its no surprise they have nothing going for them. But meh, when Ted is broken off and turned face and pushed hard to promote Marine 2 he should be able to put this behind him.

Cody is screwed. I mean he never had a great deal going for him from day one, but right now he has zero credibility and unlike DiBiase he doesnt have a movie coming out later in the year meaning the company doesnt have to push him. He is quite possibly going to become Chavo number 2.

I think this is really cool. Gabe Sapolsky posted a blog detailing his thought process in booking the debut show for a new promotion in the US. It's cool to see the amount of thought and the thought process that goes into creating a card. Specifically, a card with the purpose of getting a foothold in the US market.

http://dgusa.tv/featurearticles20.htm

I was wondering if anyone here watches dragongate. I'm so excited that it's coming over to the USA and have signed on to do PPVs. It's going to be spectacular, we really need as many people to support Dragongate as much as possible. It's the best wrestling program out there.

Those of you who watched TNA recently has seen some of dragongate's stars, Naruki Doi and Masato Yoshino. These guys are fantastic.

In other pro wrestling news ZZtop will host Raw next week.

Ive tried watching a couple Dragongates and i struggle to get into it. Just the Japanese style i guess. Will be interesting to see what Gabe does with the wealth of talent they have.

As for ZZ Top, all i can say is Vince has seriously lost grip on what made the company so great and its clear these celeb guest hosts arent going to boost storylines because everyone who would watch if you get in Ted Snr and Seth already do watch, and those who are fans of ZZ Top dont care about wrestling unless they already watch wrestling. The company has been making a series of creative disasters and major booking errors for a while, some of it due to the shift to PG programming, but there are doing so much illogical stuff that they make TNA look professional at times.

I mean at least TNA is making an effort to have a rounded program with a solid roster balanced with some good tag team work and now they are getting back to a womens division capable of putting on grade A matches - in Victoria/Tara they have found a solid replacement for Gail. Despite Russo's ineptitude TNA actually looks to be going places whereas WWE is standing still when they arent releasing or burying main event quality future talent.

Does ZZ Top even matter in 2009? It's going to a trainwreck, as I really doubt anyone in the audience for Raw would really know or care about ZZtop.

To me it's just lazy booking. They don't have any ideas and are throwing darts at a dartboard just to have an idea for a show with no long term planning. Raw has been horrible for months and months now.

Raw has been terrible for a long time, then in the draft it became the perfect storm of the same tired old stuff mixed with the random Hornswoggle BS i refuse to watch (ill never forgive them for having Nattie job to him) - throw in a none existent womens division, a none existent tag division (which didnt even get its unified match at WM) and an inability to build stars without them either being fed to Hunter of Cena and i just dont watch the show unless i have litterally nothing better to do.

The definate low point was the concept that its believable Trump could buy Raw (which ironically was reported by several outlets as being real) and then next week Vince bought it back for twice as much because Trump would somehow cost him money by giving away a show that Trump now owned .

Doesnt help that in comparison Smackdown has been kicking some serious arse since the main draft too where even pairing the same guys together time after time you get new innovative matches and great spots. I mean has Jericho and Rey had a bad match? Jeff and Edge had a great feud culminating in an awesome ladder match and they managed to overnight turn Punk from an upper midcarder to a main event credible superstar on his first proper night on Smackdown where he beat Edge. And Ziggler, the fastest rising star in the company, even tho his old music was better.

Btw, who is the smart money on being Jericho's new partner, with Ziggler and Christian being the front runners amongst the rumour mill.

There's talk now that it will be Miz. Personally I hate this idea, instead of helping Miz it would be a step down for Jericho. Ever since Jericho came back from his time off he has been solid gold. Jericho should be at the very top of the card. He's had some of the best feuds in recent memory.

I'm pretty bummed about Edge getting hurt, they were about to do big things with Jericho and Edge as a tag team and having them appear on both brands. I do like the Christian idea though.

Seems like last week's Smackdown was setting up Ziggler vs. Rey for the IC belt, which makes me doubt he'd be in with Jericho also.

Christian would be great. I would also really like Shelton Benjamin. Either could work as a matching persona (obviously Christian would have to turn, but we now how great he is as a heel). The Miz doesn't work at all from a persona perspective since Jericho's character has no patience for nonsense.

Well Christian is in an ECW match the same night as Dolph is in the IC match, so it doesnt discount them. Doing a double booking when one is a tag match isnt so bad, tho Dolph will definately be more gassed that Christian given who each is facing.

I quite like the idea of Miz being teamed with Jericho. In fact given their tweeting ripping on each other in the Aus/Japan tour it was my initial thought, but i read on a reliable site that Ziggler and Christian are the frontrunners. One thing definately working in Miz's favour is he is a proven tag wrestler unlike Dolph. He also has the fact he isnt in any feud going for him too, but it just doesnt fit in my mind. The wouldnt look right as a pairing. Then again i thought the same about Miz and Morrison so meh. Both also have a shared history of having to job to Cena despite it making no logical sense at the time.

Jericho and Edge would have been epic. Beyond epic in fact. Which is what tends to make me think Christian is going to be the front runner as he is litterally the perfect like for like replacement. Even though both of them should be working at the very top of the card in singles matches id much rather see them bringing new life to the almost dead tag division than Christian lost in the hell hole that ECW is right now.

Btw, did you guys catch the Christian/Koslov match from last week. It amazes me they keep guys like that who have proven to be failures in match after match against the very best workers in the industry, but they release guys just trying to find their feet (with previous indy success) like Colt Cabana and Kizarny and bury great in ring workers like Shelton Benjamin, Jimmy Wang Yang and Jamie Noble for literally no reason at all.

It all has to do with size, they're more forgiving because they like big guys. If you look physically imposing they feel they would have an easier time booking you as a main eventer, ie Koslov, Mark Henry.

We had a disussion and minor debate whether Miz should've beaten Cena in the last PPV as he's seen as a rising star. Point was made that wwe has pushed less great workers than Miz to the top but the only problem that's working against Miz is his size. Someone like Koslov, Khali, Mark Henry, Kane have all been given so many chances over and over again and have proven to be a massive fail but yet they don't pull the trigger on someone like Miz who will be a star someday.

Guys Jimmy Wang Yang and Noble will never make it to be really relevant in WWE when you have guys like HHH on top. They're just too small. If you never saw them in WCW and Roh you would've never know how great these guys were. Jimmy Yang and Noble were an awesome tag team as the Jung Dragons back in WCW but you'll never know from watching WWE.

Jericho is amazing. He was an upper-card wrestler 10 years ago and he is one now. What's interesting is that he is COMPLETELY different now. How often does a wrestler change his look and style that radically and reach the same level of success again? Hogan reached higher popularity than Y2J on both ends, but his in-ring work was not nearly as good. Undertaker? Sting?

Speaking of Miz and Jericho, they are feuding through Twitter, sort of. According to Rajah:

I never actually realised Wang and Noble were tag partners in WCW. Ive seen some Noble matches from ROH and its amazing how the crowd loved him. His match against Kendrick when he (re?)debuted was so awesome. Ive seen the odd match from Wang's run in TNA, but yeah, hes never looked bad in the ring even in WWE, unlike Noble who is booked to look amazingly poor every time. But meh, he has a job for life as a producer in the company so he isnt doing so bad out of the deal. Hes getting a fairer shake than Chavo.

But meh, such is the WWE style. Even going back historically, when Hogan worked in Japan he actually wrestled a much more technical wrestling style instead of the brawling US style. It makes you wonder if Cena can only do five moves, or if he is hand tied to only do those five moves by Vince.

Also, fwiw, even though Hunter has a rep for not putting over younger workers (in fact he seems incapable of making anyone else look good in the ring) he is apparently very high up on Miz, Morrison and Bourne which is why all three are getting great pushes right now - id guess he has to be the point in his career where its less about becoming the 15th time world champion or whatever he is up to now and he is starting to see the big picture of what he is going to be running when Vince dies.

I'll be the dissenting opinion and say that I liked Raw on Monday. They had some good comedy with teasing that Seth Green was going to die ("It's ok, I just need that to breathe"). Hearing Lawler say that he loved Robot Chicken was pretty funny. The main event was good. Seth Green's break up of the pin was believable, as was his selling when Orton kicked him. He looked like a 10-year old on HHH's shoulders at the end of the show.

I hope Evan Bourne is alright.

From a business perspective, Raw is of course not very good. Smackdown is delivering the new blood (Punk/Hardy in the ME, Morrison rising) and Raw is providing the old favorites (HHH/Orton/Cena). The problem is, HHH, Orton and Cena have already feuded in every possible configuration over the last five years. There needs to be something new, even a little something. Otherwise, the audience will stop caring.

Jericho's new partner if they go with the current plans for NOC:

Niiiiiice! I think this makes perfect sense.