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02-11-2010 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by amplify
If Vince Russo booked Cyber Sunday would it be a poll on a pole match?
He could bring Ivan Putski back for a Pole on a poll on a pole match imo.
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02-11-2010 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ajohnson16
Getting rid of Survivor Series. I <3 it, and if they booked it halfway well it could be very successful (though, still the lowest of the four originals).
Ah, OK. I obviously agree.
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02-11-2010 , 08:01 PM
Assuming this is the reference to the WNW podcast he just answered that he doesnt know as he hasnt heard the rumour but it wouldnt surprise him if it happened due to Shawn's power in the company. Ive not heard anything else and tbh right now im putting it down to rumour as its logically plausible plans were changed just to give Big Show something to do going into Mania and to also help limit his pain as he works through knee injuries.

Punk and Gallows were booked to win the titles a few weeks ago but they pulled it a the last minute because (as was reported at the time) HHH didnt want to drop the titles with no build towards it. The HHH can easily be interchangeable with HBK so there is some basis for this rumour unlike a lot of the BS rumours that go around.

But its also worth keeping in mind Punk gets a lot of detractors because he makes no effort to be part of the clique and be just another kiss arse. He travels largely on his own and hangs out more with guys from ROH than with the WWE (esp Colt Cabana) so there are lots of negative rumours about him that turn out to be nothing. A lot of people thought he was pushed too soon when he got his first title run (hence Batista and JBL lobbying against him) and since he is even more over since his heel turn and since he writes his own segments (with the creative team of course) there is a lot of jealousy by guys who feel he has "gotten their spot".
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02-11-2010 , 08:02 PM
In other words, wrestling as usual.
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02-11-2010 , 08:05 PM
I would hang out with Colt Cabana too.
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02-11-2010 , 08:05 PM
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A Street Fight PPV with no blood is the stupidest idea yet
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I agree, I'm thinking those are just to replace SS though, I don't see them taking away Cyber Sunday right now

Also, I think keep Roulette to Raw imo, the 3 hour specials when they have it is awesome, when it's a PPV it could lead to some odd things, like making the main event all of a sudden a tag match, or something completely dumb/useless. At least on raw, they can make it a match where even if it doesn't finish how they want, it's not for a title (usually) and on a mainstage like a PPV.
Same goes for MITB/Draft, keep it where it is. IMO replace SS with KOTR or something similar, and make the winner get the #1 contender spot or something, would definitely be quite fun and interesting.
Cyber Sunday was replaced with Bragging Rights. Its basically dead as far as i can tell.

The thing with the wheel is they just rig it, unless someone can provide incontrovertible fact ive ALWAYS assumed the spins are as predetermined as everything else on the show.

Forgot to quote it but whoever said they would rig Cyber Sunday if they take phone in votes by definition it is fraud to rig the results. Certainly it is in the UK because we have had a few scandals similar over the last couple of years.
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02-11-2010 , 08:07 PM
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I would hang out with Colt Cabana too.
Colt is the absolute man. I watch his matches in amazement at how WWE ****ed up with how they handled him. Shocked that TNA didnt sign him after he had a well received try out match back in October too.

Seriously, i reckon he is the most entertaining wrestler in the world right now.

/bro crush
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02-11-2010 , 08:19 PM
I never understood the fascination with Colt Cabana. If there's one character I hate in wrestling more than Cena, it's Colt. From the stupid smile on his face and his stupid little dance, I absolutely cannot stand him. He's a total channel flipper for me. I never liked his matches. He is the one wrestler that is on the very bottom of my list of wrestlers I want to watch. No, he's not the most entertaining wrestler in the world, in fact I would say he's the complete opposite.

I ABSOLUTELY KNEW he was going to be a complete flop in WWE before he even came there. I would put him right up there with stupid WWE signings along with Takeshi Morishima. Anyone who didn't think Morishima would bomb in WWE is out of their minds.
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02-11-2010 , 08:21 PM
apparently the jon morrison injury is a work.
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02-11-2010 , 08:26 PM
In one match at the same time he can:

Engage the crowd, put on a story, entertain by doing goofy comedy, wrestle an extremely technical match, allow everyone to bask in the glory of his coolness.

I mean its pretty wrong to compare him to Cena. He kinda has a similar "boy scout and cool" gimmick but he has lots of different and pretty innovative moves. Cena's entire moveset could be performed with ease on the old NES controller using a combo of D Pad, A and B. Half of his moves is jabbing A to punch then using run and A to shoulder block. B is the insta win lock in the single submission move he has.
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02-11-2010 , 08:26 PM
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Colt is the absolute man. I watch his matches in amazement at how WWE ****ed up with how they handled him. Shocked that TNA didnt sign him after he had a well received try out match back in October too.

Seriously, i reckon he is the most entertaining wrestler in the world right now.

/bro crush
No WWE never ****ed up on Colt. There's a reason why both WWE and TNA don't want him, and that because he was never that good. His comedy schtick and wrestling may appeal to a small indy crowd but for mass appeal he just didn't work, he was never that good.

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02-11-2010 , 08:27 PM
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apparently the jon morrison injury is a work.
Yeah, the tweet is probably (ie im speculating) a way to get HBK into the Elim Chamber. Dunno if the sprain is genuine or not but he has been sent on some international house tour so they arent worried about him injuring himself more.
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02-11-2010 , 08:28 PM
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I never understood the fascination with Colt Cabana...
I think he's the perfect guy to warm up a crowd. His chain wrestling is hilarious. But aside from all that, you don't think he'd be fun to hang out with?
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02-11-2010 , 08:28 PM
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I mean its pretty wrong to compare him to Cena.
LOL, when did I compare him to Cena? Everyone knows how much I hate Cena, I said I hated Colt more that's it. You can't compare Colt to Cena, Colt couldn't wear Cena's jock strap.

This is coming from someone who absolutely despises Cena.
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02-11-2010 , 08:32 PM
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I think he's the perfect guy to warm up a crowd. His chain wrestling is hilarious. But aside from all that, you don't think he'd be fun to hang out with?
I think Colt would be a riot to hang out with. In real life I gravitate to people like that who are fun loving and can hang out with and have laughs.

I generally don't like comedy in a wrestling match though. I feel it really demeans the "sport". That's why I love guys like Bryan Danielson, Davey Richards, Kurt Angle etc. Colt's matches are too "unrealistic" for my tastes
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02-11-2010 , 09:13 PM
ughhhhh just realized today my dvr never recorded raw...been avoiding the thread and it seems like i missed another good one. like the way some things are developing on both shows which is pretty rare for the past few months since ive been watching again.
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02-11-2010 , 10:00 PM
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The thing with the wheel is they just rig it, unless someone can provide incontrovertible fact ive ALWAYS assumed the spins are as predetermined as everything else on the show.
The first Halloween Havoc with the wheel had to be legit, it was a Coal Miner's Glove match! Next time they did seems rigged. (Vader-Foley in a Texas Death Match). WWE had a wheel that landed on something unusual (was it Lita-Victoria in a cage?)
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02-11-2010 , 10:40 PM
Coal Miner's Glove match has got to be top-5 stupidest ideas of all-time.

Worst idea of all time was the match in dying WCW that led to me looking up the Coal Miner's Glove match where they had boxes around the ring with the title in one box and "weapons" in the other. The boxes just kept falling down and I think one had a picture of Judy Bagwell in it. One definitely had a "coal miner's glove" in it, that Booker T put on and did the stare at his hand thing with.
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02-11-2010 , 10:47 PM
My boss when I was in college had a wheel that was always rigged to land on 'go fishing'
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02-11-2010 , 10:49 PM
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Coal Miner's Glove match has got to be top-5 stupidest ideas of all-time.

Worst idea of all time was the match in dying WCW that led to me looking up the Coal Miner's Glove match where they had boxes around the ring with the title in one box and "weapons" in the other. The boxes just kept falling down and I think one had a picture of Judy Bagwell in it. One definitely had a "coal miner's glove" in it, that Booker T put on and did the stare at his hand thing with.
San Fransisco 49ers match. One box had the belt, one had the glove, one had a blow up doll, and one had a picture of Scott Hall.
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02-12-2010 , 12:59 AM
or the match that they ran at the uncensored ppv. king of the road match. a match inside a tractor trailor. such a bad match.
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02-12-2010 , 01:06 AM
Worst match ever - The Kennel from Hell
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02-12-2010 , 01:41 AM
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Worst match ever - The Kennel from Hell
god i dont know whats worse, this match or the fact that i jus wasted 9 minutes of my life watching the whole thing.
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02-12-2010 , 02:29 AM
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god i dont know whats worse, this match or the fact that i jus wasted 9 minutes of my life watching the whole thing.
I vote for 'tie'

I also wasted the 9 minutes...
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02-12-2010 , 04:15 AM
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The first Halloween Havoc with the wheel had to be legit, it was a Coal Miner's Glove match! Next time they did seems rigged. (Vader-Foley in a Texas Death Match). WWE had a wheel that landed on something unusual (was it Lita-Victoria in a cage?)
Confirmed on Jake Roberts: Pick your poison dvd
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