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02-09-2010 , 12:02 AM
oh god hart wrestling?
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02-09-2010 , 12:02 AM
lol @ cena criticising vince for being all about the money then praising the Million Dollar Man.
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02-09-2010 , 12:03 AM
Also, LOL moment:

Cena: "Last week I heard Bret Hart say something I never thought I'd hear him say again."

(silence)

Random Louisiana fan: WHO DAT?!?!
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02-09-2010 , 12:05 AM
THE MAN IS 64 YEARS OLD
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02-09-2010 , 12:07 AM
OK, Bret looks way better on this run-in. Let's go with it.
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02-09-2010 , 12:08 AM
Lol brett looks like my grampa after a bottle of jameson
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02-09-2010 , 12:10 AM
what in the wide world of **** was that supposed to be
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02-09-2010 , 12:10 AM
wow that was the best moment on raw in years. i marked out
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02-09-2010 , 12:11 AM
bret smash electricity rawr
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02-09-2010 , 12:12 AM
Meh, that was kind of a lame ending. Should've done something with it next week and ended with Vince McMahon and Bret Hart lined up for WrestleMania.
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02-09-2010 , 12:14 AM
I hate when WWE uses the rigged equipment. It just looks so stupid. Oh, that box you use to control the sound is going to flash like a firework and catch fire when someone throws it? Makes sense!
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02-09-2010 , 01:11 AM
It didn't help when he stumbled over trying to pull the wires on that last box he tore up lol.

I actually liked the Cena promo alot. Vince was good. Bret looked more mobile and capable than last week.
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02-09-2010 , 01:55 AM
That was far better than most Cena promos, I'll say that. And I generally hate him.

Don't exactly understand why he was the one to make the Bret vs. Vince match happen rather than having the challenge get laid down by Bret himself, but...
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02-09-2010 , 03:37 AM
This is by far, the greatest debut of all time in professional wrestling... Hands down...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjGva...eature=related
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02-09-2010 , 11:09 AM
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Bryan Danielson vs Kawal (Low Ki) FCW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDffiBlEngs
Wtf, i searched for that like 20 minutes before my last post, lol.

Super super sick and i cant wait to see the WWE crowd marking out at seeing Warriors Way. Just the most brutal looking finisher ever to the point i hope to god Vince doesnt ban it.

Both have some great futures if Vince can get past his ego bull**** about never pushing guys who have worked elsewhere as much as they have deserved. See Taz, RVD and Christian :/

Gonna watch Raw since i bumped into the first result. Got high hopes for it this week.
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02-09-2010 , 12:57 PM
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i still mtfo every time i see that

this is another good one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd2zhPN5-Es - bring what? a fig newton?
"Grandpa Jimmy Jack Jericho". God the Rock is pure gold.
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02-09-2010 , 01:21 PM
That right there is how you start a great Raw and then end it terrible.

Am i the only one who doesnt care all that much about Bret versus Vince right now? I got closure back on Jan 4th during that promo with Shawn, the rest i dont care about.

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This is by far, the greatest debut of all time in professional wrestling... Hands down...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjGva...eature=related
I dunno what it was, but i saw that on some wrestling vid where they talked about nailing a piece of 2 by 4 about a foot up on the breakaway doorway so that he would fall over whilst running through it.

Also for some reason they never got sued for using a (clearly) Strormtrooper helmet that they silverised.
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02-09-2010 , 03:00 PM
Roddy Piper on the Adam Carolla podcast today telling great stories from the old days.
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02-09-2010 , 03:52 PM
did you guys see the wrestling episode of it's always sunny in philadelphia? rowdy roddy piper is in it and it's awesome.
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02-09-2010 , 04:25 PM
If you are TNA, why on earth would you want to move your show to Monday and go head to head with WWE? It would seem that they could get more of an audience on a night when there isn't a WWE show going on. It sounds a lot like the USFL's ill-fated move to run its season during the same time of year as the NFL instead of keeping it in the summer where it was doing just fine.

Someone please show me the error in my logic.
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02-09-2010 , 04:52 PM
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If you are TNA, why on earth would you want to move your show to Monday and go head to head with WWE? It would seem that they could get more of an audience on a night when there isn't a WWE show going on. It sounds a lot like the USFL's ill-fated move to run its season during the same time of year as the NFL instead of keeping it in the summer where it was doing just fine.

Someone please show me the error in my logic.
i couldnt agree more with this.
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02-09-2010 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HeroInBlack
If you are TNA, why on earth would you want to move your show to Monday and go head to head with WWE? It would seem that they could get more of an audience on a night when there isn't a WWE show going on. It sounds a lot like the USFL's ill-fated move to run its season during the same time of year as the NFL instead of keeping it in the summer where it was doing just fine.

Someone please show me the error in my logic.

I'm not really arguing one way or the other, but rather just throwing random ideas out:

Monday night is still wrestling night. Many people are watching wrestling on Monday night because it has been the most important night for pro-wrestling for the past 15-20 years. If TNA retains their core audience plus picks up the random people that will flip over during WWE's commercials/boring segments, it could be a success. I think back to the early days of WCW Nitro, I would only have it on when nothing was happening on Raw. Eventually, WCW came up with a very compelling storyline that caught my eye. I began to flip over from Raw more and more often. Eventually, with the peak of the nWo, I only flipped over to Raw when something boring was happening on Nitro.

I honestly don't know what night of the week TNA airs. I've never made a point to watch the program. I'll probably at least flip over a few times if it's on when I'm already watching Raw (the only pro wrestling show I regularly watch).
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02-09-2010 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HeroInBlack
If you are TNA, why on earth would you want to move your show to Monday and go head to head with WWE? It would seem that they could get more of an audience on a night when there isn't a WWE show going on. It sounds a lot like the USFL's ill-fated move to run its season during the same time of year as the NFL instead of keeping it in the summer where it was doing just fine.

Someone please show me the error in my logic.
It all comes down to taking a piece of the pie or the whole pie. Aggressive competition rarely produces two winning companies but if the goal is to beat the WWE then they have to go toe to toe with them.

Without knowing the rest of their strategy i couldnt possibly comment on if its the best overall strategy but as a fan of wrestling its great for us viewers.
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02-09-2010 , 05:26 PM
One might argue that since the highest viewership for wrestling ever was during the Monday Night Wars when sometimes one or both companies were pulling over a 5 rating on the same night that the best strategy would be to reignite that head-to-head competition. Often the best place to open a gas station is right across the street from another gas station.
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02-09-2010 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HeroInBlack
If you are TNA, why on earth would you want to move your show to Monday and go head to head with WWE? It would seem that they could get more of an audience on a night when there isn't a WWE show going on. It sounds a lot like the USFL's ill-fated move to run its season during the same time of year as the NFL instead of keeping it in the summer where it was doing just fine.

Someone please show me the error in my logic.
It's actually quite simple if you think about it. It's the same reason why this wrestling thread gets like 50 posts or more when it's Monday and barely any posts when Smackdown is on, on Fridays even though Smackdown is the much more superior show.

It's also the same reason that Roh and Dragon Gate USA and countless other indies have a show during Wrestlemania weekend. They know that wrestling fans by habit remember to tune into Raw on Mondays and that it's wrestling night.

As ridiculous as it sounds, a lot of people still don't even know what TNA is and when to find their programming on Thursday nights. Didn't RVD say that he didn't even know that TNA was on Thursdays? These are the wrestling fans that TNA is trying to capture. The hardcore wrestling fans will always tune into TNA no matter what but for TNA to grow they need to capture some of the more casual fans who would only tune into a wrestling program if there isn't a big football game or something else to watch etc. These are not the fans that would go out of their way to go watch wrestling on a Thursday night.

By moving to Mondays like everyone has said, TNA hopes to bring awareness to their product from the people who watch Raw religiously. Sometimes people would be channel flipping and realize there's another wrestling program on Mondays and hopefully grow their audience that way. By theory that's how it's suppose to work and history has shown that it has worked.
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