Official WrestleMania Thread

[chicken10der]

please god no more kane vs taker matches

[[Phill]]

Yeah, i could do without one, but Taker really does need to come back and win back his mojo and he doesnt actually have anyone he could feud with at WM other than Barrett for the reasons i said.

Tbh id trade a Kane/Taker match if it means a Barrett title win which should make some children cry. Any time a Brit wins something, an Angel gets a chip butty.

Whatever they do with the streak its gonna suck compared to the last two matches. Kane is basically the only one who has beaten Taker since 2009, its the only way they can go assuming he is healthy.

[JimHalpert]

I was reading something about the likelihood oh Barrett winning the RR, and the choosing to Main Event WM not against the Raw champion or the SD champion, but rather to attempt to put his name in the record books forever by ending Takers streak.

Seems interesting.

[I_AM_EVIL]

I told a friend of mine as soon as Barrett went to SD that he'd win the RR and then go on to beat Edge for the title.

Basically I said the same thing as Phil. It will lead up to a WM match up with Barrett and Taker for the title with Taker winning and getting his revenge on Nexus attacking him while keeping his record in tact.

[ItsRainingMen]

nobody seems to be interested in escrowing/hasn't responded to my pm's...if you're willing plz either quote me or pm me, it's weds and shipping needs to start happening

[theginger45]

What does everyone think they're gonna do with the Miz at WM27? I can't really see a logical opponent for him developing as it stands, because the Orton feud is just leaving me a bit cold right now. Orton is awesome and all, but I just don't think he can carry out a decent feud as a face.

Like the idea of Barrett winning the Rumble, but right now I feel like him vs Taker at SummerSlam is more likely, as they need more time to establish Corre as a genuine force and maybe give them that 5th member.

Personally my favourite for the Rumble is Punk - it would just draw so much insane heat that it has to be a good choice.

+1 for WWE TV being really awesome right now though, I genuinely don't know what to expect each week, as opposed to some periods during the last two or three years when I've felt like it was way too predictable. Looks like they're gonna keep us guessing for a while longer about WM27, which is a huge contrast with last year. Last year Shawn vs Taker, Bret vs Vince, Edge vs Jericho and Cena vs Batista were all obvious picks from long before the Rumble.

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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen

nobody seems to be interested in escrowing/hasn't responded to my pm's...if you're willing plz either quote me or pm me, it's weds and shipping needs to start happening

I didn't get a pm from you and don't know where to send the $.

[amplify]

ORIGINAL: According to Pwinsider.com, sources in TNA have confirmed that Ric Flair missed the TNA event in Germany due to, "Flair refusing to get on the plane to Germany". Those sources have also state that the reason he did not get on the plane was due to a blow up with a member of TNA Management in Dublin, Ireland.

The source went on to say the following…

"He threw a fit. He was playing 'Nature Boy' on the tour and got pissed off and threw a tantrum. As far as we all know, he's in Dublin still. He said he wasn't coming and he wasn't in Berlin."

This is not the first time Flair has been said to have an outburst since signing with TNA, but most of these incidents were after events, and didn't cause a change to scheduled cards. Flair was not advertised to wrestle in Berlin, but he is advertised for the Glasgow, Scotland show on the 27th. For that event, he is scheduled to team with Kazarian against Douglas Williams and Matt Morgan.

When reached for comment, TNA's head of publicity, Steven Godfrey stated the following…

"TNA does not comment on personnel matters."

UPDATE: A source close to the situation reports that Flair pulled out of the tour due to money. According to the source, the issue at hand was TNA not giving Flair an advance pay for the remaining dates on the tour.

UPDATE #2: - More details on the incident are coming out. As reported before, Flair wanted advance money for the tour. When the request was denied, Flair tried to play hardball by refusing to get on the bus that was taking the roster to the airport. The decision was then made to leave him behind.

Certain members of the roster were said to be in favor of leaving Flair behind and mocked him after the bust left, using his "signature promo lines" to do so. There was also discussion among the talent about how much of Flair's partying may have factored into the situation.

Flair was not sent home by the company; he was left behind and could easily catch up to the troupe in Scotland, if he chooses.

More on the Ric Flair drama…

- Here is the latest on the situation between Ric Flair and TNA. As previously noted, Flair will be returning to the tour starting with tomorrow's event in Glasgow, Scotland. Some wrestlers rolled their eyes when they heard that he would be returning, but the decision to bring him back to the tour was a financial one. The European shows are sold events, and with numerous changes having been made, (AJ Styles and Alex Shelley being injured, Kurt Angle returning home for a family emergency) TNA felt it best to get Flair back onto the shows to maintain good relations with the local promoters and the European fans, who kept supporting the company. This is also why Matt Hardy was added to the tour.

Among some of the wrestlers, the decision to bring Flair back will not be popular. Several performers spoke with management over the last 24 hours in an effort to have Flair sent home or even possibly let go from the company. Many performers were harsh in regards to Flair, stating that he had ruined the mood of the tour, which until this happened, was said to be calm and happy. Some are even comparing Flair to Booker T, as Booker fell out of favor with several in the company during the Germany tour last year. This was a factor in his dismissal from the company. Some talents feel sorry for Flair, including the following source…

"The whole thing was stupid but most of us feel more sorry for him than upset. If someone told you everyone is mad, that's a lie. But, there are some pissed because it makes the entire crew look like a**holes and we are certainly tired of his sh**. Flair's asked several of us for money when he's had his credit cards declined. When that happens, the bar tab comes and others get stuck paying for the very drinks he said were on the house in the first place. Everyone loves the "Nature Boy", but when the limousines and party lifestyle is based on bad credit and lies, it suddenly becomes more pathetic than anything else. There is nothing glamorous about a guy who has no concept of money management and then lies to try and get out of it. The fact he has no money should be a lesson every wrestler today should take note on. Don't let this happen to you. If you read the Gorgeous George book that came out and then take an honest look at Ric, you realize, wow, that book is pretty much predicting his future - and that's not a happy ending."

Another source believes that this may have been a good thing, since it may force management to deal with it first-hand and might make TNA a little more leery of continuing to bring in expensive veteran talent when the last year has shown no upside to it based on the current ratings. The source also says that the younger guys in the locker room have united against the veterans, feeling that they do all the work, while the veterans treat the company like country club. The source had the following to say…

"I respect what the older guys have done, but they aren't making us any money. Nothing reflects that. We would draw the exact same if 99% of them were gone. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards to take a leap forward and I really think more and more that's where TNA is. Obviously, you need some veteran talents but there's a crew here that wants to build a company and we want to focus on that, not paying someone's bar tab and having to wait for him to fight it out with Craig Jenkins [TNA Management] when he doesn't get his way."

[KingOfFelt]

Originally Posted by theginger45

What does everyone think they're gonna do with the Miz at WM27? I can't really see a logical opponent for him developing as it stands, because the Orton feud is just leaving me a bit cold right now. Orton is awesome and all, but I just don't think he can carry out a decent feud as a face.

Yeah, Orton is a horrible face. I just really don't care about anything he does when he is a face. The only reason I care about the Miz/Orton match is because I don't want Orton to win.

My guess is the Rumble comes down to Punk/Barrett and Cena. I think Barrett will win it after Cena/Punk cause each other to be eliminated. This opens up the possibility of Barrett going for the belt against Edge and/or that cool UT streak theory.

Of course, that doesn't take into account HHH, but him and Sheamus will probably somehow cause each others eliminations. That still doesn't leave Miz/Orton with anyone to feud with though...JM again maybe for a bit.

[[Phill]]

Yeah, HHH and Sheamus has to be a lock imo.

Miz is too far along to pull a Punk and go MITB again, the inevitable breakup and feud with Riley is no where near ready, he is too far along for the US title again facing Bryan, Orton vs Miz is stale already, im guessing Cena and Punk are just straight 1 on 1 feuding.

Way i see it, they grit their teeth and go Miz vs Orton for the 1-582053th time which will suck but will be offset by other goodness, they go triple threat (or even 4 way) where Morrison is the logical person to add in, or they consider the Raw match from a couple weeks ago to go Morrison vs Miz, however that leaves the question of where Orton fits into it.

Personally id go triple threat, having Miz retain through to WM.

[ItsRainingMen]

Originally Posted by amplify

I didn't get a pm from you and don't know where to send the $.

i pm'd 4 people, not everyone, but if u'd be willing to do it that'd be swell

[KingOfFelt]

Originally Posted by [Phill]

Yeah, HHH and Sheamus has to be a lock imo.

Miz is too far along to pull a Punk and go MITB again, the inevitable breakup and feud with Riley is no where near ready, he is too far along for the US title again facing Bryan, Orton vs Miz is stale already, im guessing Cena and Punk are just straight 1 on 1 feuding.

Way i see it, they grit their teeth and go Miz vs Orton for the 1-582053th time which will suck but will be offset by other goodness, they go triple threat (or even 4 way) where Morrison is the logical person to add in, or they consider the Raw match from a couple weeks ago to go Morrison vs Miz, however that leaves the question of where Orton fits into it.

Personally id go triple threat, having Miz retain through to WM.

I haven't heard anything, but isn't Jericho a possibility to return for the Rumble as well? Maybe he sticks around enough to join that feud. A Miz/JM/Orton/Jericho 4 way thing could be good.

Or in my ideal world a Miz/Jericho feud (maybe try to pull off the double heel feud if possible. Jericho as face is fine though, especially since I think him and Miz playing off each other would be great tv) and Orton turning heel and feuding with JM.

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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen

i pm'd 4 people, not everyone, but if u'd be willing to do it that'd be swell

I completely misunderstood your post IRM. I thought you were asking for us to escrow the $ with you, not that you were looking for someone to escrow it.

It's not that I'm unwilling to do it, but I don't know if I can pull it together in time.

[KingOfFelt]

For the record, I have no problem just sending the money (Stars for me) to IRM if that would be easiest.

Is there another reason for having an escrow?

[[Phill]]

Originally Posted by KingOfFelt

I haven't heard anything, but isn't Jericho a possibility to return for the Rumble as well? Maybe he sticks around enough to join that feud. A Miz/JM/Orton/Jericho 4 way thing could be good.

Or in my ideal world a Miz/Jericho feud (maybe try to pull off the double heel feud if possible. Jericho as face is fine though, especially since I think him and Miz playing off each other would be great tv) and Orton turning heel and feuding with JM.

I always forget that Y2J is expected to return.

I guess, like i said earlier, there are so many many options that predicting the end result is gonna be pretty much impossible. I dont think there is any match at WM anyone can predict with a high certainty.