Forum mod told me to go ahead and start a new spoiler-free thread when I asked in the LC thread.



What's on the line at this event? Well, the IC Title could move to Raw if Sami Zayn wins. That's...pretty much all that's on the line. In terms of stakes for the Survivor Series elimination matches, all we've been given is that if the Raw teams lose, Steph is gonna be mad. And if the SD teams lose, Undertaker is gonna be mad. I assume that we're not to believe that Taker is going to beat up the SD women if they lose, so I'm pretty sure they've got literally nothing on the line.

In spite of all of that, I'm kind of intrigued by the men's and women's elimination matches, as I guess there's some storytelling potential despite not being set up for it. Tag team wrestling in the WWE is mostly in the dumps, and I don't care about that match at all.

I won't pretend to know what the build for Goldberg vs. Lesnar is. Goldberg mentioned Lesnar's name in a non-WWE TV interview, so Lesnar challenged Goldberg. Goldberg accepted. And when they fought in the past...it didn't go well. So that's all I know.

Anyway, it's another damn four-hour show. I'll watch some of it.

6 matches. 4 hour show and a 2 hour pre show. What am I missing? Are they just going to announce more matches during the pre show?

I will actually be in live for once, so all the talk of being wayyyyy too long scares me

Doesn't SD get the cruiserweight division if Kalisto wins? Oh lol it's on the wiki w/e. +1 post count

I'm kind of in for this event. I may put it on in the background while I play some poker.

My guess is Sami will the title for Raw, they probably gave the belt back to Miz to set up some kind of storyline with him getting blamed for losing Smackdown the title.

Kalisto wins the crusierweight title to move the division to smackdown.

I notice Big Show isn't on the card but they'll still find a way for him to turn on whichever brand he's on.

Sami winning the IC Title is possible, but damn would it be atrocious to take both heavyweight midcard titles away from SD.

10 on 10 tag team elimination match next

what the hell are they going to do during the show?

why do I have an awful feeling that something will happen tonight so Undertaker can get his win back over Brock at WM

just had a terrible, unshakeable feeling

(Chekhov's unutilized old-timer and all)

JeriKO with Tom Phillips on the pre-show in the lounge.

Taker came back on SD and said that he would no longer be defined by WrestleMania, signaling that he's back on a part-time basis right now. I don't expect that they immediately follow that by setting up a WM program.

That Jericho Owens segment was likely better than anything we'll get tonight

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i think its a pretty big lock (i havent seen any dirt sheet action or anything, just my thoughts) that takers beating aj at rumble and going under cena for #16 at mania

Then why isn't he on the team?

I wouldn't be able to answer that, but he indicated that what he cares about is that match. The fact that he showed up as Team SD is another indicator that he's not showing up to mess with part-time Raw wrestler Brock.

Since the cruiser weight division goes to smackdown does that mean Ellsworth will be champ and full time wwe talent?

No wonder wrestling is so different now - the 9 year olds behind me are legit smarks. Pointijg out bad spots "that looked so fake" , lol. Also trying to get on Jericho list lmao

They also bood Byron Saxton love these twerps

I have no idea how they will make 5? Matches stretch over 4 hours. Good lord

Prolonged Nikki Bella entrance.

I mean, if they eliminate a couple people then turn the women's match into an orgy, I'd watch

Why they making the girls go first?

Bayley Sasha Becky so over.

Lol huge pop for Natalya... this crowd gonna piss vince off so much

Starting off terrible, Guess it only can get better lol

Or get worse

LOL Fox sheeped losing first and not only didn't she lose first, she got the first pin.