I'm unsure which match you're talking about and if you want an NJPW link or YT lol so...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...7pI/edit#gid=0

I think you'll like that link if you have NJPW World

Yeah I had that link open for like 3 weeks straight when I had World.

I watched the Elgin/Naito match and enjoyed it but never thought it would be 5 stars. It seems a bit high although I'm not the biggest Elgin fan. Did Kenny/Naito get 5 stars?

Also yeah Naito is pretty awesome, he looks like he's right out of a Yakuza game. I think it's in NJPW's best interests to push him more than anyone else this year.

Yeah, Kenny/Naito got that as well.

I'm glad you thought that way because he, along with Tanahashi, Okada, Yano, and TenCozy, made appearances and they were in fights in Yakuza 6.

Thoughts on the match* if you've watched, Dar0? I remember watching the Shinsuke vs Naito match be having my jaw on the floor as this was only a couple of weeks into my viewing of NJPW. I've watched a few more times and as recent as < 6 months ago and still love that match. The Naito vs Okada match is even better and I remember being astonished during the match at how good it was. I could tell that something mind blowing was going down. I have 80+ 5* matches but this'd be in my top 20 matches of all time for sure, perhaps top 10.

*I assume you meant the Okada/Naito match is the one you were going to view.

I started watching it last night then fell asleep because i was super tired. I will def get back to it either tonight or tomorrow.

For the little i did watch, a major thing that stood out to me was Naito then and Naito now are like 2 completely different guys with the way they carry themselves in the ring.

Definitely. They started pushing Goto and Naito to the top of the card at the same time and did the same thing with them. afaik Goto got his first shot at the IWGP strap on 11/11/2007 in another very recommended match (also 5* from this guy) but they weren't attempting to have him as a main stay at the top of the card until spring 2011 and when he got his second IWGP title shot on 6/18/11. Both shots against Tanahashi, ironically enough and also 5* from this guy.

Naito turned face by breaking up with then partner Yujiro Takahashi (guy in BC now). He immediately got pushed as a main eventer as well. Made it to the finals of the 2011 G-1 and got that first title shot on 10/10/11. Neither guy was given any kind of gimmick, unless you think Goto wearing baggy pants is a gimmick. Both super white meat babyfaces destined to fail. The only reason Naito changed was because he got a couple of injuries. There was the long awaited rematch between Shinsuke and Naito in November or December of 2012 but Naito messed his elbow up badly prior to the match. He worked through it and had surgery immediately afterward. He came back months later and a few months later ripped his knee to shreds and he was never the same athlete. I think that NJPW sending him to Mexico was his saving grace in NJPW because he needed that extra something to overcome his new limitations and that extra something has propelled him into stardom and the NJPW gold.

Goto finally last year showed some personality with joining Chaos and just doing anything that wasn't straight up coming to the ring > wrestle > leave. But he seems to be in the same spot he was 6 years ago. A tool for the champion to use on his way to bigger challenges.

hah yeah I'm a huge fan of those games so knew about that and really looking forward to it. Just have to wait for the English release.

Honor Rising was total AIDS, none of the ROH guys do anything for me at all

Funny enough I have another tab open now that that said Adam Cole vs Yoshi-****ing-Hashi was ****1/4+

I didn't even know that they were doing another joint show because I'm a real fan!

I did lol at six boots, but card underwhelmed me after WK and the one with suzuki (i think i missed one between suzuki/this one tho?)

Sounds like you missed the one a few days after Suzuki/Okada where Elgin/Naito got a 5* match from Da Meltz.

well, ****. guess ill check that out

You missed the only good show since WK, go watch that.

Yes, go watch New Beginning in Osaka. Don't just watch the main event though. Shibata/Ospreay was pretty good and Hiromu Takahashi/Dragon Lee was really good (and those guys have been wrestling each other a lot in the last few years and those matches have received great acclaim.)

Yea Takahashi/Dragon Lee was basically Ospreay/Ricochet but good

Sounds like Jado paralyzed Honma last night

jeff cobb is an absolute fn animal

That PWG post made me check for Mystery Vortex IV. Available for downloading starting yesterday . Downloading.

For **** sake. Was hoping that was hyperbole. It doesn't sound good.

Ibushi vs Okada on 3/6? I had no idea.



MiSu/Shibata :fap: :fap: :fap:
Ishii/Omega! That match is going to be a ton of fun.
PLZ TO BE HAVING SHIBATA WIN EVERYTHING AND WORK OMEGA!

Ibushi is not facing Okada on the 45th anniversary show. Tiger Mask W is facing Okada though.

Just ****ing awful.

I just watched it tonight. Dar0 and I don't see eye to eye sometimes but he nailed this one, Okada doing his dropkicks and top rope moves with what's supposed to be a mangled knee killed this match for me too.

Beyond that, the way the match was laid out, Okada has to tap to the kneebar (or have the towel thrown in, that would have been great) at about the 30-35-minute mark. Okada surviving that and going on to win is over the top unrealistic. It was too massive an attack on the knee for that, the offense needed to be more even in distribution. Meh.

Good news for Honmania

Excellent news