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01-05-2017 , 07:25 PM
New Years Dash should probably take place the week after WK as like 1/2 the roster could barely move
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01-05-2017 , 10:11 PM
I loved it! What a match
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01-05-2017 , 11:03 PM
don't even know where to start really. i can't even comprehend what that match looked like to people who have been invested in NJPW for the entire year

omega is absolutely incredible
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01-05-2017 , 11:16 PM
If you haven't seen Naito/Omega from the g1 Climax tourney check it out. IMO thats Omega's best match of the past year.
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01-05-2017 , 11:36 PM
Main Event

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01-06-2017 , 08:32 AM
Just finished the event.
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Well, finally watched through WK 11. Man, went through over 5 hours of stuff. I don't think any other company, but NJPW, can get me to watch a 5 hour wrestling show.
Same. It didn't even feel like 5 hours whereas SummerSlam which was 6 hours felt like 48 hours long.

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I really really liked the main event. It was excellent. I preferred the match before that though. Was just incredible psychology and story telling going on. I'll likely watch it all again in a few days to see if that opinion holds.
I prefer limb focused matches to striking and high spot matches but I preferred Omega/Okada by far.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong
I need to re-watch but right now I'm still fine with 5*. Maybe not the "best match I've ever seen" but I was marking out and in the moment.

With that said Punk/Cena MITB is the most overrated of all time and it's really not even close.
First paragraph: Same. I marked so hard for the end which lasted forever. I can't even remember the last time I enjoyed a match so much.

Second: that's like, your opinion. I think it's easily a top 5 WWF/E match.

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Kenny kicking out of 2 rainmakers was dumb, didn't like that at all. It's like someone kicking out of 2 stunners.
Which Kurt Angle did at SummerSlam 2001 in a match I have at 5*

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Originally Posted by darO
I rest my case
Are you hating on that 95 match?

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Originally Posted by gusmahler
As an aside, this is not the first time Meltzer has put out the "above 5 stars" rating:

He allegedly said the 6/9/95 Misawa/Kobashi v Taue/Kawada match was "*****+"
That 6/9/95 match will forever be the greatest match I've ever seen. Nothing can top that performance and the culmination of a 2.5 year long rivalry and a story that really dated back over 5 years.

There have been other matches he's said "5 stars doesn't do this match justice". Quotes from Dave are in the comments if you're curious enough.

That event was fantastic. Even the undercard delivered and I was afraid of being bored to death until the last three matches. Good use of my time iyam

A parting sentiment: LOL you guys.
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01-06-2017 , 09:27 AM
technical question....Is there a way to download the video from either yt or dm, put it on a memory stick and watch it on my tv instead of computer screen?
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01-06-2017 , 10:51 AM
Is there anyone in the world right now that has more value and potential to be the WWE's biggest star than Omega? This match just sky rocketed his value, turning down those WWE offers last year was the best move he ever made, they will be throwing all kinds of money at him now. Reigns has failed, Seth isn't doing great, Ambrose can't get there, AJ is aging and doesn't have that much natural charisma, KO doesn't have the "look" and Borelor is one dimensional. Kenny literally has it all and right now there isn't many that comes close to having a total package like he does. I hear Mundo has been killing it in LU lately but he has the stigma of his **** WWE run.

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technical question....Is there a way to download the video from either yt or dm, put it on a memory stick and watch it on my tv instead of computer screen?
http://youtubeinmp4.com/youtube.php?...%3DpvJq0nJ4Vjc
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01-06-2017 , 01:12 PM
Kenny Omega just tweeted that he's "stepping away from Japan"

https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/s...23227886125056

Followed up by saying "there is no plan"

https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/s...39042358378496

Cue the Royal Rumble rumors.
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01-06-2017 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Is there anyone in the world right now that has more value and potential to be the WWE's biggest star than Omega?
On Sam Robert's podcast, he said that Naito and Tanahashi were the must-get performers from WK 11.

I have no opinion on that, as I barely follow NJPW and haven't seen WK 11 yet, just reporting what he said.
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01-06-2017 , 04:34 PM
Man if the WWE were able to get Omega from NJPW that would be super super brutal for them. He's basically their only marketable Gaijin.
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01-06-2017 , 05:07 PM
Just watched the last three matches of WK11. I wasn't blown away by either of the NEVER Openweight and IWGP Intercontinental title matches. Okada/Omega, on the other hand ... wow. I personally think that's the best match I've seen since some of Kobashi's classics.

Surprised at some of the takes that think otherwise, honestly. But to each his/her own.
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01-06-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Surprised at some of the takes that think otherwise, honestly. But to each his/her own.
Ditto. The best I can think to compare it to is Undertaker/HBK @ 25 and everyone here loved that. I thought this match was Taker/HBK turned up to 11. That's right, Omega vs. Okada > Undertaker vs. HBK.
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01-06-2017 , 08:02 PM
I watched it last night but decided to let it sink in before commenting on it. What an incredible match. Stiff as hell and I loved it. There was a spot where Omega hit Okada with a top rope middle drop kick to the back of his head that I have no idea how Okada ever got up. Hopefully I'll get some spare time at some point and watch the feast of the show
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01-06-2017 , 08:08 PM
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Ditto. The best I can think to compare it to is Undertaker/HBK @ 25 and everyone here loved that. I thought this match was Taker/HBK turned up to 11. That's right, Omega vs. Okada > Undertaker vs. HBK.
This is a fair comp and I agree that it was a souped up version of that match
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01-06-2017 , 10:15 PM
At least this forum isn't like this:
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Anyone who thinks Naito/Tana was better or as good as Okada/Omega is a ****ing moron. And I don't even really like Omega like most of the world.
and that's why I love this forum. There aren't going to be any 13 year olds who don't understand what opinions are.

Also:

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01-06-2017 , 10:22 PM
I appreciate Toru Yano's ability to get the haters mad
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01-06-2017 , 10:31 PM
Are there people who don't love him?!?!?!?!
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01-06-2017 , 10:43 PM
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Are there people who don't love him?!?!?!?!
I used to not like him and there are people questioning why he is in the G1 Climax over the years, but now that I think about it, in kayfabe, Yano is probably the smartest wrestler in the G1 Climax.

You got a lot of people, in whatever block he's in, killing each other in 10-20 minute matches and picking up injuries along the way and Yano's making sure that isn't happen by taking the easy way out, the sneakiest way out, etc. and his matches go like 1-5 minutes thus preserving himself, looking fresh as a daisy, during that long tournament.

So yeah, I like the guy enough. I just wish the IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team division was built a little better and not revolve around Yano's comedy antics since there are a fair amount of good regular teams in NJPW that those tag title matches should be booked a little better.
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01-07-2017 , 07:56 AM
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01-07-2017 , 03:13 PM


Agreed.
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01-07-2017 , 04:01 PM
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I mean it is rough indeed to lose AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, and Guns n Gallows all at once, but when it comes down to it, those guys had good motives to make the shift to WWE and it was not because NJPW was a low-rent company (quite the opposite, it looks to be a solid top-notch company to be in, just very far from the states) to work in.

Styles is always money-driven (always claims he'll take the best money offer that will support his family). Nakamura had wrestled pretty much everyone in NJPW (except Omega), and most people felt Nakamura was coasting along during 2015 (with exceptions to his match against Ibushi, Okada, and Tanahashi). Doc Gallows had a decent tenure (in length not much in storylines) with WWE where if the higher-ups still like him and he's improving elsewhere, they'll bring him back eventually. Karl Anderson..... Don't know honestly. Probably like Nakamura, been in NJPW for a lengthy while, wrestled everyone, wants a change of scenery as well.
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01-08-2017 , 04:52 AM
Yeah agree with the above, it's silly to think the WWE or the talent were doing it to hurt NJPW. WWE might not be their direct competition but they are competing for talent and Kidani knows that.

I'm not sure how much the Kenny/Okada helped NJPW more than it helped Omega himself. I've obv been a huge Omega mark for a while now but it's kind of pissing me off seeing all these people who have only seen one NJPW match give Okada no credit. 99% of the praise I see is from gaijins is for Kenny which is kind of dumb. On top of that they're talking about KO like "I hope WWE sign him" or "Suprise RR entrant". **** that. I want to see him win the IWGP title and stay as far away from the WWE writers as possible.
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01-08-2017 , 08:07 AM
an hour for a single wrestling match is way too long

all I got in the complaint dept from my first 2 NJPW matches I've watched. The match itself is better than wwe matches obv but at least wwe realizes iron man matches ain't a good thing. Started skipping ahead every 30 sec for awhile there even in the main event. :/

also the first omega match I've seen and whoever these Japanese dudes are.

I believe omega's contract doesn't run out till after rumble but someone surely knows these things. Also it'd be too quick of a turnaround.

RAINMAKERRRR is a good finishing name. Widowmaker is better but I'm gonna presume that's a no go in that culture.
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01-08-2017 , 09:42 AM
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an hour for a single wrestling match is way too long
I've been watching NJPW on the regular since 2011 and this is the first match I can recall that's gone over 40 minutes long. Most championship matches are between 25 and 35. If you're going to have an epic 47 minute match, doing it at the annual Dome show is the perfect place.

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RAINMAKERRRR is a good finishing name. Widowmaker is better but I'm gonna presume that's a no go in that culture.
Well it's Rainmaker because he makes it rain. The over the top cocky heel. Did you watch his entrance? He makes it rain on them hoes. Rainmaker. Get it?

I have more thoughts on the match after watching a second time but way too tired atm. Will post'em when I wake up later.
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