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Old 05-21-2015, 08:47 AM   #176
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I like the booking of NXT, but the talent is top heavy. I dig Balor, Steen, Zayn and Joe and several of the women, but I couldn't care less about most of the male wrestlers.
Totally agree

I don't like breeze or Itami either
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:55 AM   #177
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NXT crowd really needs to stop trying to put themselves over.
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That "this is wrestling" chant is so ****ing cringeworthy.
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Yep. I'll just assume that the "you ****ed up" chants after botches are coming soon.
+3. I love their enthusiasm but they're so lame.

I agree that Balor needs some more offense. That match was mostly ground strikes and jumping strikes, not at a lot of holds or slams etc. That wouldn't be so bad but all of his strikes are so similar. Not a fan of his finisher either.

Thought everything was pretty average apart from the women's match and the short main event.

Marked out a little for Joe in WWE. It should be awesome if they book him how TNA did when he first debuted and just squashes everyone until he gets a title shot. I'm happy they let him keep his name but what's with the submission specialist instead of the samoan submission machine?

Lesnar vs Joe is now a slight possibility and that's awesome.
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:58 AM   #178
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Roman is the one true Samoan

And I'm not even sure I'm kidding with that reason
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:01 AM   #179
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Were there any 'joe's gonna kill you' chants? Cuz if not **** the NXT crowd
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:19 AM   #180
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Yeah that happened, really loudly.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:28 AM   #181
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Think Bliss is gonna make a great heel.
She seems like a much more natural face (and Carmella a much more natural heel), so I'm really surprised that they did what the did.

Glitter bomb to the eyes could be fun though.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:29 AM   #182
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Roman is the one true Samoan

And I'm not even sure I'm kidding with that reason
He's also the one true Joe.
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Old 05-21-2015, 12:36 PM   #183
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Balor vs Neville Takeover Rival was quite good. Devitt vs Ibushi, Wrestle Kingdom 8 also. Granted, Balor wasn't the best worker in either one.
He had a bunch of great matches in NJPW. The 3-way with Ibushi and Lo Ki at WK 7 was elite. His matches with Okada and Tanahashi are always at least very good.

I was much more up on this event than you guys. I enjoyed it until after KO hit the powerbomb on the floor and then Joe made just about the most underwhelming debut ever.

I need to watch more next. so many people in it. Bayley, Sasha, Finn, Breeze, Alexa's stomach, etc etc and a HUGE fan of Cass/Enzo but I hope those two stay in NXT forever because they'll be ruined in the main roster.
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Old 05-21-2015, 05:27 PM   #184
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Such a good post-match interview/promo. Crazy that Owens is feuding with 4 guys right now (maybe even 5, depending on Regal).

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Old 05-21-2015, 07:36 PM   #185
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Joe's minimalist debut was effective for people who don't really know who he is. The crowd doing the Joe chants and everybody freaking out without him (or creative) even doing very much makes him seem like a big deal. But it was rather lackluster if you already are familiar with Joe, outside of the "Joe is in WWE!" aspect of it all that would be there no matter how he debuted.

But at least it wasn't "Look at this! It's Roman Reigns half-brother Samoey Jimmy!!!!!"
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:40 PM   #186
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I kinda feel that legit developmental guys are getting hurt pretty badly by randos materializing from other companies and jumping ahead to the front of the line.

I honestly couldn't give a **** less about fat Joe being in NXT as he's been terrible for at least 7 years now
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:47 PM   #187
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Not many people are going to be saying in 2016 or whenever Breeze gets called up to the main roster "Well, this guy seems great, but they made Joe seem like a bigger deal than him in NXT so who cares!" Isn't going to matter long term.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:08 PM   #188
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For no reason just want to mention that Sasha is about the only woman ever to get me into women's wrestling. She's great. Even her facial expressions when she's hit or selling are great (check out when she's cowering at the beginning on the bottom rope and when she's thrown into the steps for the best example of this). Her move set is pretty damn good. And she has an outrageous amount of charisma compared to any other woman wrestler.

I'd enjoy Charlotte a lot more if she didn't look like she was just dipped in bronze.

I haven't really seen Joe since like his 06 matches with Joe. He's aged awfully.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:11 PM   #189
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Yea Sasha is very likely the GOAT women's wrestler considering she's only 23(!!!) Charlotte also could be one of the best ever. Sara Del Ray is the GOAT trainer.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:27 PM   #190
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Sasha is great but Toyota had 9 5 star matches already at 23. Best US women's wrestler, perhaps.
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:14 PM   #191
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Just getting around to watching takeover. Pretty much a lock to fall asleep on the couch during, but if there's one thing that really needs to be said, it's that Tyler breezes music sucks, and his original theme was awesome
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:17 PM   #192
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Was asleep <1 minutes in to Finn breeze. 12 hr work day and 9 holes of golf. Trying again tomorrow
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:18 PM   #193
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Fin matches are boring so can't say I blame you
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:44 PM   #194
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I loved that interview with renee far too much. Forcing her into speaking, making him even more hate-able. Top notch heeling.
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Old 05-22-2015, 04:58 AM   #195
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first time watching a NXT product and it was kinda meh for me personally.... there were some really cool spots but it just didn't feel as special as you all made it out to be.

i did thoroughly enjoy the diva's championship match though.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:03 AM   #196
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first time watching a NXT product and it was kinda meh for me personally.... there were some really cool spots but it just didn't feel as special as you all made it out to be.

i did thoroughly enjoy the diva's championship match though.
It seems like there was a mixed reaction itt on this show. I enjoyed it but it wasn't GOAT or anything. Coincidentally, I just watched Zayn vs Cesaro from the first NXT special (ArRIVAL). That show was much better and tbh, last nights was the weakest of the 4 or 5 NXT specials so far.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:59 AM   #197
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hmm if you say it's the worst so far ill guess ill watch some more then

i sometimes have no time to watch raw or don't feel like watching and WWE adding 500000 PPV's doesn't help either (i mean watching a rerun on some site cause i can't watch it monday night)
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:19 AM   #198
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Let's try again... Awesome spot by Finn with the double stomp to the outside. This crowd is excellent
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:21 AM   #199
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Please don't die is a good chant. I'm sold on Tyler breeze.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:31 AM   #200
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Please don't die originates from a spot where BJ Whitmer almost accidentally (no ****!) killed Jimmy Jacobs in the most ridiculous botched move, ever. It was chanted in their subsequent rematches. I don't think a spot where somebody is atop a stage deserves such a chant (yeah, I'm jaded over that one). Thought the stage dive was lame tbh. He's not Shane McMahon after all
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