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us: agonizing over WM storylines, direction of the company

wwe creative: debating whether to have nikki ask brie to shine her shoes or hold her bags in tonight's RAW segment

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10-27-2014 , 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LKJ

Somebody took a pin here.

You know what I mean- nobody took a clean win.

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10-27-2014 , 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onedollaratatime

Bingo, the lack of top tier talent is the bigger problem. For the past 1-2 months, the last 25 minutes of Raw has been the same **** just re-packaged differently. The main event has consisted of the same 5 wrestlers (rollins, ambrose, cena, orton, kane) in someway shape, or form. Im so over Kane. If he isnt in a boiler room match with Mankind or Undertaker, I want him no where near what is going on. Bray coming back will help break up the monotonous dynamic that has taken over raw the past 2 months.

There seems to be an implicit thought in this comment that Bray himself counts as top tier talent -- or else anyone else could fill the role of "not top tier guy changing things up" just as well.

The problem is that Bray is not top tier talent, either in terms of actual in ring ability, or in kayfabe terms of who he's actually beaten in the last forever (lost to Cena, had to have severe help to beat Chris Jericho lol).

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10-27-2014 , 03:26 PM

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us: agonizing over WM storylines, direction of the company

wwe creative: debating whether to have nikki ask brie to shine her shoes or hold her bags in tonight's RAW segment

this is actually correct of course

Dear WWE,

Next time make sure more smoothie on the tits and less on the hair.

Sincerely yours,

Me

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10-27-2014 , 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by onedollaratatime

I think currently there is a huge lacking of wrestlers that have mic skills.

This problem is made worse because week after week the top wrestlers do a gigantic live discussion segment. Sure, that works if you have Austin, Jericho, Vince, etc. It's like they are using a template or recipe that the no longer have the ingredients for.

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10-27-2014 , 06:08 PM

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I know I'm way higher on Bray than everyone else, but I'm predicting everyone who is against a Bray/Amrbose feud right now will feel differently in a couple months.

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10-28-2014 , 04:15 AM

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Yeah that's what everyone said about Wyatt as a character but over a year later he is still boring with no depth at all. He just attacks people for no reason then cuts a bunch of bad promos that people think are edgy because they're random. He was stale during the Jericho feud so they're trying to make him relevant again by pairing him with the hottest guy. Why should we care about a guy who lost to Jericho clean? He is a mid card heel that WWE desperately wants to be a main eventer.

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10-28-2014 , 06:06 AM

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Part of the problem, admittedly, is that I can't give two ****s about Bray Wyatt.

This

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10-31-2014 , 08:35 AM

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Interesting stat about Rollins vs Ambrose at HIAC.

The main event was the first match since November 23rd, 1994 (Survivor Series) that two WWE Superstars under the age of 30 headlined a singles match on PPV. That match featured The Undertaker vs. Yokozuna.

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10-31-2014 , 08:41 AM

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albeit im a sucker for stats...

But that is a terrific stat.

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10-31-2014 , 10:55 AM

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Princess Lea was a poor way to end a PPV...

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10-31-2014 , 02:56 PM

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Another interesting stat that I don't know the answer to...

Rollins vs Ambrose is the first match to close a PPV in which none of the competitors had ever previously or currently held the WWE or World title since __________?

(Best I can come up with off the top of my head is Bigelow/LT, but there must have been one since then)

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10-31-2014 , 03:01 PM

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Bret vs. Bulldog would be another, but that's older than Bigelow/LT.

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10-31-2014 , 03:05 PM

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Austin/Owen/Cactus Jack/Terry Funk vs. HHH/New Age Outlaws/Savio Vega is one. That was the PPV before Austin won it for the first time, and a decent whiel before Foley or HHH won it.

Rock vs. Foley in Survivor Series later that year. Rock won the title in that match but obviously hadn't had it yet.