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11-17-2014 , 12:14 PM
Love Kurt Angle, but he wouldn't have even occurred to me.

If I was going to do one within that generation of wrestlers (debuting in the big two in the mid-late 90's, still semi-active today) it would probably be Jericho.
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11-17-2014 , 12:19 PM
There's always JBL
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11-17-2014 , 12:21 PM
No there isn't.
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11-17-2014 , 12:33 PM
I'm pretty sure he does in fact exist
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11-17-2014 , 12:34 PM
You don't have any hosses yet. Vader would be a great study
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11-17-2014 , 12:36 PM
He does. He would just never, ever make the grade for a tribute thread by me, even though I generally liked him well enough in the APA and JBL characters.
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11-17-2014 , 12:42 PM
Vader was obviously an elite big man talent. But he was never one of my guys; I wasn't watching NWA/WCW until the mid-90s since it wasn't until then that my house had cable.
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11-17-2014 , 12:54 PM
Actually there's one idea I could run with. I'll keep the name under my hat and launch it when the time is right, so probably not particularly soon.
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11-17-2014 , 01:25 PM
Is he hosssy?
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11-17-2014 , 01:35 PM
Not really.

The only one who I can think of that might qualify for me would be someone like Mick Foley, but again I feel like that doesn't really fit for me since there's probably 10 posters on this board are bigger fans of his than I am. Like I would say about others, I love the guy, but he's not exactly one of my guys. Kinda figure that if I don't feel like I'm a guy's biggest proponent on the board then it's sort of contrived for me to be the one drawing up a tribute to him.
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11-17-2014 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Actually there's one idea I could run with. I'll keep the name under my hat and launch it when the time is right, so probably not particularly soon.
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11-17-2014 , 03:59 PM
Haha. I'd sooner do a tribute to JBL than Batista.
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11-17-2014 , 05:00 PM
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He does. He would just never, ever make the grade for a tribute thread by me, even though I generally liked him well enough in the APA and JBL characters.
Listen JBL, you're a big star, you just aren't "Tribute thread by LKJ" big. Sorry buddy
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11-17-2014 , 05:02 PM
Hahaha.
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11-17-2014 , 11:39 PM
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There's always JBL
LOL this. I'd rather see Ron Simmons than JBL.
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11-18-2014 , 02:29 AM
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AWA World Heavyweight Title: Jerry Lawler (c) vs. Curt Hennig w/ Madusa Miceli

Date: July 16, 1988

Link: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1p...t-hennig_sport

Background: Lawler won the title from Hennig a couple of months previous, and I believe this is the first and only return bout since then. Hennig was on his way out of the company, so this is the last AWA bout I have. Hennig and Lawler also appeared to carry on this feud in another company, CWA, but I can't find any history cliffs on that, just sporadic YouTube videos here and there.

The Match: The early part of this match is a lot of feeling out. The crowd is hotter than I've seen from these other AWA matches; both guys are hugely over. It feels like a slow build to another long match, and in fact the announcers talk about how the match could easily go 60 minutes, but it doesn't come close so it doesn't really justify the slow start.



Hennig posts Lawler hard on the outside, then forces him inside from the apron with a suplex. He covers and gets two. The announcers are pretty hilarious here, as they sell the garden-variety suplex like it's the most amazing move ever, and then actually yell about how exciting it is when Hennig then locks in an abdominal stretch.

As the referee is distracted, Madusa slips her spiked heel shoe to Hennig, who clobbers Lawler with it, but his pinning attempt still only gets two. The near-fall here kind of gets ****ed up because Lawler throws his shoulder up way early and kills the drama of a believable false finish. Hennig piledrives Lawler, but doesn't hook a leg upon pinning him and the predictable rope break occurs. Lawler makes a surprise roll-up on Hennig, but Madusa had distracted the referee so there's no count. Hennig back in with the Rick Rude neckbreaker on Lawler, but it's still only worth two.

Curt heads to the top rope, but Lawler arrives in time to crotch him on the corner. The King hits him with an atomic drop and then drops the strap on his singlet. He pounds away on Hennig, gets a running start and connects with a punch that Hennig sells like a hand grenade just exploded in front of him. Lawler to the second rope, attempts a fistdrop, but Hennig moves and the King gets a fist full of canvas. Hennig quickly locks in a sleeper hold. Lawler's hand drops twice but not three times.

As Lawler struggles to try to escape the sleeper, Hennig is riding his back and hanging on, which causes Lawler to toss him off, over the top rope, and that causes a disqualification. Lame. Hennig was gone shortly after this from AWA, but I can't find record of another match between he and Lawler. How do you not just put Lawler over clean there?

Result: Curt Hennig via DQ (16:30)

Rating: Ummm…it was decent. Like it basically all played out like the start to a potentially great match, and then suddenly ended in lame fashion. I'm certainly now a believer that an inability to ever just end a match cleanly was really a big problem for AWA. 3 stars out of 5 though, good work by both men.
Just watched this one.

WTF DQ for throwing them over the ropes? What sort of rule is that?

liked the slow start made the tension feel more real. Also enjoyed the way they sold moves, nowdays someone gets punched a bunch of times and suplexed and they jump back up.

Overall good match though. Does bring me to a question that I will start a new topic for.
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11-18-2014 , 04:16 AM
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Actually there's one idea I could run with. I'll keep the name under my hat and launch it when the time is right, so probably not particularly soon.
History of the 4 Horsemen Tribue Thread.
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11-18-2014 , 08:40 AM
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History of the 4 Horsemen Tribue Thread.
I've thought about an idea like that, but it's awfully difficult to find all of the early footage of the initial days of the group. Unfortunately WWE doesn't seem very interested in rolling out 80s stuff on the network.
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11-18-2014 , 08:42 AM
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WTF DQ for throwing them over the ropes? What sort of rule is that?
It was one WCW employed until the mid-90s too. I don't really understand it either, but it's how things used to be.
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11-18-2014 , 03:12 PM
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It was one WCW employed until the mid-90s too. I don't really understand it either, but it's how things used to be.
Didn't they "outlaw" powerbombs as well? I seem to remember that for some reason.
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11-18-2014 , 03:15 PM
Not that I know of. In the waning days of the company, there was even that ridiculous powerbomb match between Sid Vicious and Kevin Nash that ended after Nash woke a ref up from a ref bump and just told him that he powerbombed Sid when he didn't, which caused the ref to just take his word for it and award him the match.

If you're talking about them being illegal in the earlier days, maybe so but I hadn't heard it.
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11-18-2014 , 03:24 PM
I'm in favor of having a few rules like DQ for being thrown over the top rope. They are useful for getting heat on the heels, and for keeping people interested in watching the feud because they want to see it end differently. Rulebreakers need rules to break. Also it creates more potential endings which helps to keep things from getting stale. Of course unclean endings too can be done too often, like anything.

About the power bomb thing in WCW, Nash had to go to jail once for using a power bomb, but I'm not sure if powerbombs in general were banned or if Nash specifically was barred from using it.
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11-18-2014 , 03:40 PM
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I'm in favor of having a few rules like DQ for being thrown over the top rope. They are useful for getting heat on the heels, and for keeping people interested in watching the feud because they want to see it end differently. Rulebreakers need rules to break. Also it creates more potential endings which helps to keep things from getting stale. Of course unclean endings too can be done too often, like anything.

About the power bomb thing in WCW, Nash had to go to jail once for using a power bomb, but I'm not sure if powerbombs in general were banned or if Nash specifically was barred from using it.
I think the story was the move became illegal after the botch with Big Show (the The Giant).
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11-18-2014 , 04:05 PM
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It was one WCW employed until the mid-90s too. I don't really understand it either, but it's how things used to be.
Actually this was legal for quite some time in the late 80's until Bill Watts became the main guy in 92ish when he changed that and jumping off the top rope as a DQ.
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11-18-2014 , 04:49 PM
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Actually this was legal for quite some time in the late 80's until Bill Watts became the main guy in 92ish when he changed that and jumping off the top rope as a DQ.
The over the top rope rule was on and off because leadership changed so frequently; some guys got DQed for throwing over the top in 89. That rule banning off the top rope moves is one of the stupidest decisions in wrestling history. Don't ban something integral to the offense of many of your wrestlers.
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