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i also don't hate the usos changing it up even if this transition hasnt been great. it at least gives them the chance of getting out of the stale state theyve been in for so long

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09-12-2016 , 10:49 AM

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I guess it's even more surprising if the rumors that Ryback was supposed to squash AJ at WM are true.

EDIT: "It" being AJ's push.

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09-12-2016 , 11:22 AM

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Ziggler and Miz put on a nice match, and theoretically I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch, but it seems that a continuance of the feud probably leads to Ziggler going over. I'd much rather see Dolph's character go in another direction, as he currently doesn't interest me but also certainly seems like he could be salvageable since I was interested in him all of ~a month ago.

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09-12-2016 , 11:41 AM

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Ziggler was a massive favourite with the bookies yesterday, I was looking forward to reading the meltdown in the thread today after Miz lost.

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09-12-2016 , 11:45 AM

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Don't really think it would have been meltdown-worthy. More of a garden-variety bad WWE booking decision. Glad they avoided that in any case.

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09-12-2016 , 01:55 PM

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It's a perfect tjme for Ziggler to be repackaged as a heel

Only problem is that smack down has no baby faces. It's Ambrose, cena, Ziggler and God only knows who is fourth... Apollo crews? Kane?

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09-12-2016 , 01:56 PM

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I forgot about orton I suppose he could be up there.

I'm sure we get babyface AJ sometime soon too

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09-12-2016 , 02:36 PM

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Bray Wyatt should go face. I mean, I probably still won't like him, but I think it would get over.

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09-12-2016 , 04:05 PM

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Just want to add in, a 450 splash from the apron should almost never be kicked out of. I guess the burden of being awesome at wrestling is you have too many moves and only one can be a "finisher"

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09-12-2016 , 05:23 PM

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I'd say that AJ's worst move is his finisher

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09-12-2016 , 05:28 PM

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I assume you mean the forearm. I found it pretty sweet that he won the championship with his most famous move.

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09-12-2016 , 05:34 PM

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I meant the styles clash. The phenomenal forearm is fantastic.

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09-12-2016 , 05:41 PM

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Yeah the styles clash is dumb

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09-12-2016 , 05:45 PM

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The Styles Clash is a worse looking version of Cesaro's neutralizer. Actually surprised that both are still using their moves as finishers considering how similar they appear.

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09-12-2016 , 06:14 PM

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I meant the styles clash. The phenomenal forearm is fantastic.

I have the exact opposite opinion

. Without even defending the Styles Clash, I think the forearm is a horrible finisher. The definition of a transition move.

edit: just to clarify, I think the forearm is a good move, just not worthy of being a finisher.

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09-12-2016 , 06:23 PM

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I think the Phenomenal Forearm is a good finisher. Would be better if it didn't have such a crappy name. Styles Clash looks cool, but is ruined by how much super-obvious participation is needed by the opponent.

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09-12-2016 , 06:25 PM

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I just don't get how the styles clash is supposed to hurt. It also looks sooooo bad on someone bigger than AJ, which is basically every person he wrestles in the main event scene.

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09-12-2016 , 06:43 PM

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Bray Wyatt should go face. I mean, I probably still won't like him, but I think it would get over.

Didn't they do that for like two weeks about a year ago? I seem to remember he and Reigns as a tag team on Raw one night.

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09-12-2016 , 07:07 PM

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Styles clash is lame.

Phenomeal Forearm is awesome, he gets so much vertical and gets fully stretched out it looks so great in slow mo and from the various camera angles

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09-12-2016 , 07:08 PM

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It does seem like they started in that right direction once, then diverted. I don't remember specifics.

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09-12-2016 , 09:49 PM

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Ziggler was a massive favourite with the bookies yesterday, I was looking forward to reading the meltdown in the thread today after Miz lost.

Actually on Friday, Miz was the favorite, then on Saturday it switched to Ziggler, then on Sunday before the show it switched back to Miz.

Also right before the show big money came in on Nikki Bella making her the favorite

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09-12-2016 , 10:48 PM

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I just don't like how the Style's Clash the opponent has to help AJ by hooking their own arms around his legs. Other than that I think it looks alright.

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