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Old 07-25-2012, 06:10 AM   #76
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

this is such a joke ... why 'everyone' blames barry. it not his fault the company went broke.

i also find it ridiculous that some sources report, that ~130million of 'phantom money' are part of FTPs financial problems. ppl knew that problem, cashed in but weren't charged ... so basically they played on credit too and no one cares.

btw is barry not the only known pro who owns ftp money, but the others just don't say anything about it, after this facts went public.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:41 PM   #77
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

Now you can pay Pokerstars Barry. Maybe they can take it out of your pay check.
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:41 PM   #78
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

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Now you can pay Pokerstars Barry. Maybe they can take it out of your pay check.
I was always going to have to pay whoever owned Full Tilt. (Not what Tapie Group was trying to do which was own assets but not the debts.) Clearly, PokerStars will own Full Tilt in a few days or a little longer, and finally I will know who to pay. I'm curious if they will try to collect from anyone else.
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:01 PM   #79
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

Poker needs more BarryGs
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:34 PM   #80
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Poker needs more BarryGs
Yeah, pretty much. Good to see Barry G doing the right thing.

Make sure the people at stars make them all pay what they owe, Barry!

(on that note, it'd be nice if you could get Sebok would give back the money he made shilling for UB and declaring it safe to play on to the players with money stuck on UB, or at least pledged to do so when/if the company is liquidated/officially declared bankruptcy
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:53 PM   #81
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

Wow, nice reply Barry. *Salute
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:10 PM   #82
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

Well I gave Barry some stick in this thread, but if he does as he says, he will come out of this looking good, where many of the FT pros will clearly not.
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:54 PM   #83
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

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I was always going to have to pay whoever owned Full Tilt. (Not what Tapie Group was trying to do which was own assets but not the debts.) Clearly, PokerStars will own Full Tilt in a few days or a little longer, and finally I will know who to pay. I'm curious if they will try to collect from anyone else.
Stay classy Baz !
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:23 PM   #84
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

He's only paying because he got caught. This still doesn't rectify the fact that he leveraged his situation as friends with owners to get them to use other people's money to transfer it to him with a keystroke. He thwarted the system of making an actual deposit on the site like a 'normal' player. He's paying because that's his only real option, but it still is a nick in his credibility in my book. The 400k should have been transferred to FT before Barry played a hand with it.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:04 PM   #85
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He's only paying because he got caught. This still doesn't rectify the fact that he leveraged his situation as friends with owners to get them to use other people's money to transfer it to him with a keystroke. He thwarted the system of making an actual deposit on the site like a 'normal' player. He's paying because that's his only real option, but it still is a nick in his credibility in my book. The 400k should have been transferred to FT before Barry played a hand with it.
Good nickname you chose!

Those guys wanted Barry in the games and they know his word is good.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:10 PM   #86
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

Do tell Barry who made the EXECUTIVE decision to put 400k phantom money in your account?
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:42 AM   #87
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

From the main sticky:
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"Full Tilt agrees to withdraw all claims against any seized or otherwise restrained assets. PokerStars agreed to release any claims to accounts of non-PokerStars entities."

Pokerstars is eating any losses on the deposits that were never drawn from players bank accounts.
Barry, I know you will pay regardless, and I also understand your situation is different from a phantom deposit. However, would you agree with this interpretation of the DOJ's quote? If so do you think this applies to you and others in a similar situation?
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:42 AM   #88
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I'm curious if they will try to collect from anyone else.
I sure as hell hope so.......the thought of these scumbags just walking away from this and leaving Stars to clean up the mess is very troubling.
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:30 AM   #89
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Re: Response regarding money I (Barry Greenstein) owe to Full Tilt

I just saw this in the other thread:

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From the PokerStars Settlement Order
http://www.scribd.com/doc/101713812/...ttlement-Order

Pokerstars company gains the following asset:

Debt of professional poker players for repayment of loans previously granted to them as listed in the Excel Workbook entitled "Pro Loans revised - 19th Jul with Ray comments" provided by the Full tilt Group or their representatives to the PokerStars Group's representatives.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:52 PM   #90
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I sure as hell hope so.......the thought of these scumbags just walking away from this and leaving Stars to clean up the mess is very troubling.
Yup.

Respect to you Barry. You're one of the classiest people in poker.
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