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09-17-2014 , 06:00 AM
http://www.californiaonlinepoker.com...nia-2015/1473/

seems liek amazing news to me yet I haven't heard anything about it on 2p2
09-22-2014 , 07:47 AM
Many poker news sites covered this story with various spins

Here is the url to the raw report

http://linkback.morganstanley.com/we...8-349e888f8058
09-23-2014 , 01:49 AM
thanks dr
09-23-2014 , 01:38 PM
sounds like a vast amount of speculation and hope, blindly positive? maybe... cali is huge tho thats a start.
09-24-2014 , 05:03 AM
IMO some of the estimates provided by Morgan Stanley are a bit "inflated" in some spots in comparison the actual state estimates.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 10-12-2014 at 08:13 AM.
09-25-2014 , 02:02 AM
best **** I've read in awhile I guess. just hard to say, poker climate isn't bad online now. just makes me wonder what could be. hoping to find out soon with VPN

Spoiler:
09-25-2014 , 06:20 AM
Speculative yet interesting read, it will be intriguing to see how things progress and possibly climax in the future.
09-25-2014 , 09:15 PM
At the very least it's a good sign they think there is M&A activity they can clip a ticket on in the near future.
09-27-2014 , 11:34 AM
Most US States like most countries in Europe are broke. That will influence all their future decisions, including online poker.

If internet poker was legalized in the US there would be another explosion with CaesarsPalace dot com or any other site tied to a big-name B&M casino soon dominating with the associated tax revenue that such would bring. Of course, most politicians are "real world" stupid so who knows.
11-13-2014 , 02:42 PM
I think it's a good sign for some
11-13-2014 , 05:52 PM
The problem is that right now the current state-by-state balkanization of US poker makes things worse for the majority of US players.

It's a good thing that players in New Jersey, Nevada and California will have another online option. The problem is that it hurts those who won't have state-sanctioned poker in the near future.

I live in Michigan, and I play on Americas Cardroom. According to the predictions at the start of this thread, I won't have state-sanctioned online poker in the next two or more years.

The number of players on Americas Cardroom/Winning Poker Network is small. Some scheduled tournaments don't start because they don't have a full table at the listed starting time. Now let's say that a populous state, Ohio for example, sanctions online poker for Ohio residents only. That would be a lot of players, some of which will migrate from ACR and other US-facing sites. That will happen when California goes live.

The bottom line is that every state that goes live before Michigan cuts into the player pool for those of us left behind. Keep in mind also that poker sanctioned in one of the less populous states would not make much of a player pool. Idaho going live wouldn't really be a big win for tournament players in that state.

Interstate agreements and federal legislation are the only options that would help most of us.

I finished 7th in a 4,200-player MTT on PokerStars and cashed for 116 buy-ins. On Americas Cardroom, where a big tournament is 500 players, 7th place would be somewhere around 10 buy-ins. MTT careers are built on the premise just a few very large cashes can make a player profitable for that year--but that is no longer true.

If the ACR/Bovada/Cake Poker player pools take a hit, I guess I'll be partying like it's 2009 on PokerStars--when Sean Deeb specialized in 180-player SNGs. It might be time to reread Deeb's post on how to beat those games. Many of the non-guaranteed ACR tournaments in fact have around that number of entries.

      
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