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12-17-2011 , 05:21 PM
absolutley loving the draftday site, wish there was some strat talk about the weekly games..
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12-17-2011 , 06:27 PM
Not to kill your thread or sound like a jerk, but I'd be surprised if the big winners go into detail about their strategy as sharing has a very good chance of costing them significant profits.
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12-17-2011 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Midgeotto
Not to kill your thread or sound like a jerk, but I'd be surprised if the big winners go into detail about their strategy as sharing has a very good chance of costing them significant profits.
talking strategy on 2p2 is pretty standard. btw, thanks for the nice words in the chat earlier, someone sent it to me. glad to have the support of the poker community.
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12-17-2011 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Plastic
talking strategy on 2p2 is pretty standard. btw, thanks for the nice words in the chat earlier, someone sent it to me. glad to have the support of the poker community.
I understand that it is standard, and I only said that the big winners might not be willing to contribute. I wasn't referring to myself as I only play the $1 and $5 games.

Not sure what nice words I said or what was sent to you, but your welcome. :-)

This site is also great, the customer support at Draft Day is awesome.

Last edited by Midgeotto; 12-17-2011 at 08:17 PM.
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12-17-2011 , 08:19 PM
Just to show some support in what I consider is probably standard but paying attention to injury reports and player's twitter accounts can prove valuable.
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12-17-2011 , 11:20 PM
thank God I took MIke Williams out in the last second
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12-18-2011 , 04:37 PM
cam newton
steven jackson
michael bush
A.J. Green
Torrey Smith
Percy Harvin
Brandon pettigrew
Nick novack
Cardinals


thoughts?
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12-18-2011 , 10:06 PM
i binged on my recievers his week
Grossman
Foster
Chris Johnson
Roddy WHite
Calvin Johnson
Marques Colston
Owen DAniels
Rob Bironas
Browns
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12-19-2011 , 10:41 AM
brees
rice
cj2ypc
james jones
gaffney
megatron
daniels
tynes
seahawks

2nd in the 2p2 freeroll

thank you caleb hanie
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12-19-2011 , 11:10 AM
I failed miserably with the TJ Yates / Owen Daniels combo
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12-19-2011 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by UCBananaboy
I failed miserably with the TJ Yates / Owen Daniels combo
I gambled with Yates as well and it was my doom. Worst week for me since joining Draftday.
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12-19-2011 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Midgeotto
I gambled with Yates as well and it was my doom. Worst week for me since joining Draftday.
I had a Seneca Wallace / Greg Little combo originally and I switched it up last minute. Pretty crazy to think that was a bad switch!
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12-19-2011 , 08:39 PM
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I had a Seneca Wallace / Greg Little combo originally and I switched it up last minute. Pretty crazy to think that was a bad switch!
Yeah, for the price I thought he would give up decent production as Carolina is usually pretty bad. I also got screwed by Percy Harvin. I knew his production would go down with the return of AP, but I figured that the Saints have a pretty weak defense and that Percy would still get his share of time with the ball as AP still isn't 100%.

To add to my woes was H. Nicks who dropped 2 touchdown passes.

This doesn't even touch on the terrible luck I had with my alternate lineups.

Ah well, variance.
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12-19-2011 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Midgeotto
Yeah, for the price I thought he would give up decent production as Carolina is usually pretty bad. I also got screwed by Percy Harvin. I knew his production would go down with the return of AP, but I figured that the Saints have a pretty weak defense and that Percy would still get his share of time with the ball as AP still isn't 100%.

To add to my woes was H. Nicks who dropped 2 touchdown passes.

This doesn't even touch on the terrible luck I had with my alternate lineups.

Ah well, variance.
Yeah. Yates / Daniels combo allowed me to stack pretty much every other position. I had Harvin too
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12-20-2011 , 12:11 PM
QBKyle Orton v OAK (QB)
RBArian Foster v IND (RB)
RBMaurice Jones-Drew v TEN (RB)
WRMarques Colston v ATL (WR)
WRCalvin Johnson v SD (WR)
WRMalcom Floyd v DET (WR)
TEAntonio Gates v DET (TE)
KRob Bironas v JAC (K)
DEFSteelers (Pit) v STL (DEF)

what you all think?
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12-20-2011 , 12:34 PM
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QBKyle Orton v OAK (QB)
RBArian Foster v IND (RB)
RBMaurice Jones-Drew v TEN (RB)
WRMarques Colston v ATL (WR)
WRCalvin Johnson v SD (WR)
WRMalcom Floyd v DET (WR)
TEAntonio Gates v DET (TE)
KRob Bironas v JAC (K)
DEFSteelers (Pit) v STL (DEF)

what you all think?

Seems like a solid lineup. Good luck.
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12-20-2011 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hurdda
QBKyle Orton v OAK (QB)
RBArian Foster v IND (RB)
RBMaurice Jones-Drew v TEN (RB)
WRMarques Colston v ATL (WR)
WRCalvin Johnson v SD (WR)
WRMalcom Floyd v DET (WR)
TEAntonio Gates v DET (TE)
KRob Bironas v JAC (K)
DEFSteelers (Pit) v STL (DEF)

what you all think?
i'd swap orton and CJ
I think you'll get better results spending 15k at QB and 8k at WR.
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12-20-2011 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by phillydilly
i'd swap orton and CJ
I think you'll get better results spending 15k at QB and 8k at WR.
good point, probably like Rivers and Gaffney.. Im a huge Lions fan and can tell everybody Gates has sick value at only 11k this week he will blow up against us
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12-20-2011 , 08:17 PM
Will the best fantasy bettors be running player simulations through computer models like sports bettors?
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12-20-2011 , 08:51 PM
i hope so, **** simulations
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12-21-2011 , 11:34 AM
For those of you playing multiple leagues per week, are you using the same lineup in each league or switching up lineups?
It seems to me that most EV would be playing the same lineup.
If you have two lineups, one must be better than the other, its just a matter of which one. Obviously this does not apply to snake drafts.

I guess the other option would be if you have certain players you are damn sure are locks, say 2-3 players. Then you could take these 2-3 in a couple of different leagues and switch up the other positions.

say you have 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE you think are huge values and must plays. But on the other hand, you think rodgers, brady, brees are pretty even in value. Enter three leagues, in all 3 take your 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE, then take rodgers in one, brady in one, brees in one. kind of hedges your must play locks against a QB having a bad week if you took one for every league.
Just like some thoughts here...
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12-21-2011 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by phillydilly
For those of you playing multiple leagues per week, are you using the same lineup in each league or switching up lineups?
It seems to me that most EV would be playing the same lineup.
If you have two lineups, one must be better than the other, its just a matter of which one. Obviously this does not apply to snake drafts.

I guess the other option would be if you have certain players you are damn sure are locks, say 2-3 players. Then you could take these 2-3 in a couple of different leagues and switch up the other positions.

say you have 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE you think are huge values and must plays. But on the other hand, you think rodgers, brady, brees are pretty even in value. Enter three leagues, in all 3 take your 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE, then take rodgers in one, brady in one, brees in one. kind of hedges your must play locks against a QB having a bad week if you took one for every league.
Just like some thoughts here...
Seems like most people just rotate in small pieces.

e.g.

Lineup 1:

Brees
Foster
MJD
Cruz
Colston

Lineup 2:

Brees
Peterson
Foster
Nicks
Jennings

I think it varies though on the size of the game. For the big guarantees, there is probably a bit more variation.
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12-21-2011 , 03:27 PM
Alright screw it, its the end of the season, I'm going to lay out my general strategy.

Obviously the name of the game is value and your job is to find players that have the greatest chance of exceeding their price. Something that can work is picking players who are getting a larger workload due to an injury from a starter (think Felix Jones last week), or players who didn't do much early in the season but are now on a hot streak (think Victor Cruz or Percy Harvin before the price caught up to them). Obviously you need to be paying close attention to the NFL to know these things. A players price is all-important. Even though Rogers is great, he has gotten too expensive imo.

When actually selecting the lineup, I go in a methodical order. First, I like to pick DEF and kicker, usually going really cheap here looking for good matchups. Then I like to pick QB, usually either picking one of the top guys or going cheap again, trying to find a great value play. After this I pick TE, usually picking one of the top 6 guys. Lower-end TEs are too much of a crapshoot imo. After this you can look at the "average price remaining" and play off of this to select your 2 RB and 3 WR. For RB I normally like at least one elite guy who catches a lot of passes and has a good mathcup (Foster, Rice, MJD, McCoy) and another guy who will get a large workload whose price I think is too low for some reason (see first paragraph). I don't like to reach for lower-end RBs, they are too likely to put up a really low number imo. Regarding WRs, I usually like one elite-ish guy, one medium-range guy whose price is too low (like Cruz and Harvin the past few weeks), and then some lower-end guy who is on a hot streak (like Demariuys Thomas). For WRs I value consistency and how many passes they catch. For example, I wont select Steve Smith or even Megatron for that matter due to their inconsistency and lack of value for PPR.
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12-21-2011 , 04:07 PM
The other thing that you probably know intuitively from poker is that you need to change your lineup based on the game you are playing. For example, I like to play the double-up games where 50% of the field gets paid and I pretty much choose the highest expected value lineup possible, but if you are playing the other games where the payouts are top-heavy you should maximize your variance by choosing high risk/high reward players since your upside helps you more than your downside hurts you.
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12-21-2011 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Biesterfield
Alright screw it, its the end of the season, I'm going to lay out my general strategy.

Obviously the name of the game is value and your job is to find players that have the greatest chance of exceeding their price. Something that can work is picking players who are getting a larger workload due to an injury from a starter (think Felix Jones last week), or players who didn't do much early in the season but are now on a hot streak (think Victor Cruz or Percy Harvin before the price caught up to them). Obviously you need to be paying close attention to the NFL to know these things. A players price is all-important. Even though Rogers is great, he has gotten too expensive imo.

When actually selecting the lineup, I go in a methodical order. First, I like to pick DEF and kicker, usually going really cheap here looking for good matchups. Then I like to pick QB, usually either picking one of the top guys or going cheap again, trying to find a great value play. After this I pick TE, usually picking one of the top 6 guys. Lower-end TEs are too much of a crapshoot imo. After this you can look at the "average price remaining" and play off of this to select your 2 RB and 3 WR. For RB I normally like at least one elite guy who catches a lot of passes and has a good mathcup (Foster, Rice, MJD, McCoy) and another guy who will get a large workload whose price I think is too low for some reason (see first paragraph). I don't like to reach for lower-end RBs, they are too likely to put up a really low number imo. Regarding WRs, I usually like one elite-ish guy, one medium-range guy whose price is too low (like Cruz and Harvin the past few weeks), and then some lower-end guy who is on a hot streak (like Demariuys Thomas). For WRs I value consistency and how many passes they catch. For example, I wont select Steve Smith or even Megatron for that matter due to their inconsistency and lack of value for PPR.
good post Biester, another important thing with DraftDay, is that QB passing TD's are worth 6 instead of 4 (the industry standard) which is very important in my opinion. I always scrape the bottom of the barrel for QBs in fantasy drafts getting one in the later rounds, have never taken a Rodgers, Manning, Brady type guy. But with 6 points for a TD instead of 4 it really changes the value of an elite QB.. on the other hand Rodgers at 22k - 24k is crazy
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