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02-06-2014 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rush17
lol @ "winning players aren't moving the button". such a blanket statement.
Yes, it was my tongue-in-cheek attempt to get people to want to stop moving the button.
02-06-2014 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyrochaos
You can tell someone is a winning player when they:

-open the door
-get on the floor
-everybody walks the dinosaur
Best. Response. Ever.
02-09-2014 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nit3.runn3r
Best. Response. Ever.
Was........

Don Was
02-09-2014 , 02:23 AM
Big stack of chips in front? Dont see them rebuying all the time? Not in too many hands!
02-09-2014 , 04:54 PM
Most winning players I see keep more than one buy in worth of chips on their person.
02-10-2014 , 11:07 AM
Can't stand people moving the button, i want to smack players when i go to move the button after the hand and then someone moves it back and says" i already did it." Tell me then you ******* moron.
02-10-2014 , 11:29 AM
At most 1-2 NL games, I'll assume (until given information to the contrary) that a player is at least decent if he/she:

- doesn't tap the glass

- makes more hero folds than hero calls

- tops off his/her stack if it falls $50 or so below a full buy in (assuming a full buy in is $300. Note - plenty of fish do buy in for the max, and plenty of solid players buy in for less than max, but if a player buys in for max and tops off when he/she gets a decent amount below the max, then I'll regard him/her as decent+ player)

- three bets in position at least as often as limps out of position

- continuation bets post-flop at least 75% of the time in position

- Wins more than 75% of his/her hands prior to showdown, unless against a table of calling stations where he/she is going to valuetown

- either never shows his/her hands (bluffs or monsters), or only does so once or twice every couple of hours
02-10-2014 , 01:52 PM
I agree that the people who walk around scanning for "Bad" players are not good players themselves because they think they need to play against bad people to win. I personally prefer playing with good players because I usually know how they are playing.

The things that tell me right away that someone is a BAD player are:

People who raise then tank when they get re-raised
People who wine and complain to you about a bad beat
People who berate someone for making a bad play and drawing out on them
People who tank preflop to a limped pot then fold
People who cbet, then check the turn in front of me then tank when I make a half pot bet
People who win a decent pot then stack up their chips and take 30 minute breaks after every 5min of play
People who flat a 3bet out of position heads up
People who limp call their button in a heads up pot
People who limp call AQo
People who limp call period.
People who talk about how and why they played their hand a certain way to other full time players in their player's pool
02-10-2014 , 05:55 PM
On the Thinking Poker Podcast (worth checking out), the hosts read a letter that captured a few qualities of a good player. The listener wrote:

* I drink water every hour b/c that forces me to go to the bathroom, which forces me to take a break every hour. To an observer, this might simply mean seeing someone who drinks water (rather than pounding beers)
* I always bring four buyins to the casino, even if I can't imagine needing. (From an outsider's perspective, this could mean seeing someone take money/chips out of his pocket after getting stacked rather than going to the ATM)
* I try to exercise, shower, or shave before every session
* I try to never show cards that never get to showdown
* I don't ever discuss poker, ever, at the table; but I participate in all nonpoker-related discussion
02-11-2014 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Pyrochaos
You can tell someone is a winning player when they:

-open the door
-get on the floor
-everybody walks the dinosaur
Not really related to the topic, but there is a guy who plays the higher stakes games at THR who will just start acting like a dinosaur. One time saw this guy acting like a raptor walking up and down aisle between tables. The management made him stop but it was probably the funniest thing I've ever seen.
02-11-2014 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by donkatruck
Not really related to the topic, but there is a guy who plays the higher stakes games at THR who will just start acting like a dinosaur. One time saw this guy acting like a raptor walking up and down aisle between tables. The management made him stop but it was probably the funniest thing I've ever seen.
Clearly, he is a winning player.
02-11-2014 , 08:32 AM
Headphones, hoodie, sunglasses ldo
02-13-2014 , 12:24 AM
02-13-2014 , 11:26 AM
When they wear a bracelet like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-St...item27c238558a

Or if they are wearing a WSOP, WPT, or any other poker apparel.

02-13-2014 , 04:28 PM
Heh i tank pretty often, but its always because im doing math in my head, combination analysis, or planning future streets. I am probably one of the slower players at my table, but its not like im tanking and thinking "should i call, should i fold, hmmm what did i eat today"

Haha i actually had a few fish berate me a while back asking if theres anything going on in my head when i tank. Kind of tilted me but whatever
02-13-2014 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox
Haha i actually had a few fish berate me a while back asking if theres anything going on in my head when i tank. Kind of tilted me but whatever
That's when you gotta break out some ignorant, superstitious nonsense that they'll appreciate, like, "I was thinking about how hot straight draws have been lately," or "I was trying to figure out how due that other guy is for a suckout." Know-it-all suckers love that kind of ****.
02-13-2014 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimulacrum
That's when you gotta break out some ignorant, superstitious nonsense that they'll appreciate, like, "I was thinking about how hot straight draws have been lately," or "I was trying to figure out how due that other guy is for a suckout." Know-it-all suckers love that kind of ****.
"I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT MATH OKAY?!"
02-13-2014 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
"I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT MATH OKAY?!"
My favorite math gurus at the table, specific to low-limit poker:

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Originally Posted by MathGuru
In this game, you just gotta call. I mean, the bet's only, what, four dollars? You can't fold for that. You could hit anything, and it's only gonna cost you four bucks!
The visual sign of the winning player here is the one who is rolling his eyes and putting his hand over his mouth to conceal the chuckling.
02-13-2014 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimulacrum
The visual sign of the winning player here is the one who is rolling his eyes and putting his hand over his mouth to conceal the chuckling.
They can't have played very much if they actually react to statements like that.

This is why I believe the best players are nice guys. They've heard a lot of outrageous **** in the years and years they've played. People insisting three divided by five is 3.5? Standard. He can probably give a fake explanation of why AKo should be limped better than you can give a real explanation of why it should be raised.
02-13-2014 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimulacrum
The visual sign of the winning player here is the one who is rolling his eyes and putting his hand over his mouth to conceal the chuckling.
The visual sign of the winning player here is the one who smiles and nods and agrees with the outrageous statement.
02-13-2014 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JDiamond364
Headphones, hoodie, sunglasses ldo
I see this guy and my first thought is: this guy watches too much tv poker and thinks he's better than he actually is.

9 time out of 10 they try to make NL moves that just don't work in limit.
02-13-2014 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
People insisting three divided by five is 3.5?
Poker strategy mistakes, fine. Correct plays in poker aren't always intuitive or easy to verify.

But 3 ÷ 5 = 3.5? Really?! For ****'s sake. For. ****'s. Sake. Please tell me that this guy types it into a calculator later on and realizes how far off he was.

You guys are right about playing along with these fools when they spout pseudo-logic, though. I was messing around about the eye-rolling thing.

Some of the stuff people say, though…it's like their entire body of gambling "knowledge" comes from drunken conversations with old ladies in front of slot machines. Sometimes I genuinely don't know if they're just kidding.
02-14-2014 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimulacrum
But 3 ÷ 5 = 3.5? Really?! For ****'s sake. For. ****'s. Sake. Please tell me that this guy types it into a calculator later on and realizes how far off he was.
Why would he punch it into a calculator? I conceded he was right (after a brief argument).
02-14-2014 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Why would he punch it into a calculator? I conceded he was right (after a brief argument).
Hehehehe. Just so ridiculous.
02-15-2014 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
People who seat change and table select in already-soft games are not good players. They're probably not bad but they're not good.
This is pretty incorrect imo. I don't know what you mean by "already soft games" though.

I play in a pretty soft room, and as a rule, if my table is pretty good, I'm not gonna leave it just because another table MIGHT be better. With that said, the expected winrate from one table to another, at any given time, can be huge.

Sometimes, I'll get sent to a table that has 4 guys whom I know are winning players (or at least not losers), 3 others who are familiar, and only slightly bad. I'll know pretty much right away to look for a better table...and I can usually find one with less familiar faces and/or big fish.

It's true that good players want to get hands in, but taking 10 minutes (aka, 5 hands) to locate a good table can be hugely +EV a lot of the time.

      
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