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bluem3 · 06-09-2012, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MSUspartan4

I am no longer the poker room manager at TI. I resigned a few weeks ago. I'm moving back to Michigan with my family to raise my son close to home.

I will still drop in every now and again and give my 2 cents, am certain I will still be in touch with a lot that is happening in the room. I have been there since the room opened and I still want the best for it and all those that work there.

One thing I do want to mention is the part about advertising in magazines, etc... I tried for 4 years to get magazine ads, and was turned down over and over. The owner doesn't believe in print ad, and getting any money from the casino for any kind of advertising is nearly impossible.

Anyways, those that I've been in touch with, I wish you the best.

Troy

Why don't you guys hire Prop players?

FromACtoLV · 06-09-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bluem3

Why don't you guys hire Prop players?

With their promotion, basically everyone is a prop player.

poker_triad · 06-09-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bluem3

Why don't you guys hire Prop players?

I think people often forget that to hire prop players they would essentially be employees of the poker room and would have to be paid out of their own pockets. Since promotions such as this are paid out of the drop it does not cost the room any extra money.

8freerunner8 · 06-09-2012, 04:47 PM

I am really excited to give this promotion a try, looking forward to putting in some long hours at the TI come the end of the month when I arrive in LV.

MSU, you said games run 24/7 on the weekends, how have games been on weekdays and weekends now that the series is in full swing? Thanks.

pig4bill · 06-09-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MSUspartan4

For the last 3 months of 2011 we had a $2 max rake on all limit games. $2 an hour comps, and it still didn't work. Just got word that an aces cracked promo is starting. They are running it from 11am to 6pm. $50 plus a wheel spin. Aces cracked of the same color and you start with a 2x multiplier. The pay to play promo is still running, so if this doesn't get limit players, I don't know what will.

I didn't know there was a $2 rake on limit games. But with a $2 jackpot drop, that's just as high as everyone else's rake most of the time. Still, lack of getting the message out...

2/4 players are not eligible for the cashback?

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Originally Posted by poker_triad

Along these lines I've always felt that the poker room at TI stood in stark contrast to the rest of the property. The poker room has always catered to local players, especially in contrast to other strip properties.

If you say so. I've never felt that way and most of the players at my tables were from out of town.

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Unlike the Orleans, or any other local's casino for that matter, TI does not have a wide and cheap food court mere feet from the poker room, a movie theater upstairs nor do they have promotions that are run by the casino at large for locals. The cheapest meal you can have is at the pizzeria next door and I still wouldn't call them cheap.

Kahunaville is just as close as the food court places in the Orleans and cheaper than the pizza. I'm not 100% sure that Orleans poker comps can be used in the food court anyway.

poker_triad · 06-09-2012, 06:01 PM

One guys sees one sign on the escalator and thinks they are doing a good job of advertising. Another compares what is basically a bar where an annoyingly loud band plays "Blame It on the Alcohol" every single night to a food court. Really? Seriously, do you guys just come here to argue no matter what?

Steve00007 · 06-10-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

It's probably because their LHE game was 2/4, which I don't think qualifies for the promotion. So nobody comes in to play it. There are probably plenty of people that would play 2/4, but when they walk by there's no game and no list. Hiring props is OUT OF THE QUESTION. Who cares if the California cardrooms do it and have waiting lists 3 hours or more. This is Vegas, dammit, and we don't hire poker props.

By contrast, last week when I was there, the Orleans had 3 full tables of 2/4 with a list 10 deep. It was an hour wait to get a seat. The difference? They were grinding a bad beat jackpot. And the rake is $3 max. Which has more appeal - grind all week for $600 or the possibility of a life-changing couple hundred grand?

TI - being successful is easy game. Look at what successful rooms do, and do the same thing.

I'm very skeptical that TI will be successful if they do the same things that the Orleans does. One advantage the Orleans has which is mentioned in your post is they always have several limit games going. When I go to the Orleans, I know they will have limit games there. Every time I walk by the TI poker room, the only game I expect to see going is 1/3 NL.

Also the Venetian is successful with 4/8 limit, is just across the street, and they have a $4 rake and no bad beat jackpot. I think Mirage has a bad beat jackpot with their 3/6 game, but I think the rake is $4 there.

MSUspartan4 · 06-10-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

I didn't know there was a $2 rake on limit games. But with a $2 jackpot drop, that's just as high as everyone else's rake most of the time. Still, lack of getting the message out...

2/4 players are not eligible for the cashback?

If you say so. I've never felt that way and most of the players at my tables were from out of town.

Kahunaville is just as close as the food court places in the Orleans and cheaper than the pizza. I'm not 100% sure that Orleans poker comps can be used in the food court anyway.

I don't agree that $2 drop and $2 jackpot is the same as a $4 rake. The players get the $2 from the jackpot back, and then some, when they capitalize on the promotion. $3-$6 limit and higher qualifies for the cashback promo. $2-$4 plays way to small to allow that to qualify.

MSUspartan4 · 06-10-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 8freerunner8

I am really excited to give this promotion a try, looking forward to putting in some long hours at the TI come the end of the month when I arrive in LV.

MSU, you said games run 24/7 on the weekends, how have games been on weekdays and weekends now that the series is in full swing? Thanks.

I haven't been there in a couple weeks but the games run until at least 4 am on all nights. Just call ahead to see how the action is. 702-894-7291.

MSUspartan4 · 06-10-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bluem3

Why don't you guys hire Prop players?

The promo pays $10 an hour plus $2 an hour comps. They do hire prop players.

squid face · 06-11-2012, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 8freerunner8

I am really excited to give this promotion a try, looking forward to putting in some long hours at the TI come the end of the month when I arrive in LV.

MSU, you said games run 24/7 on the weekends, how have games been on weekdays and weekends now that the series is in full swing? Thanks.

walked by there at 12:30 pm (sunday)

NO ACTION - 1 person on the 1/3 interest list

DC2LV · 06-11-2012, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by squid face

walked by there at 12:30 pm (sunday)

NO ACTION - 1 person on the 1/3 interest list

Yes, but unless things have changed recently, they'll pay you to sit there and wait to try to get that first game of the day started. They'll log you in and you'll get credit for that time as you work toward the $12/hr max compensation ($10 + $2 comp).

bluem3 · 06-11-2012, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MSUspartan4

The promo pays $10 an hour plus $2 an hour comps. They do hire prop players.

well 60 hours is too much and players will get burnt out. do you know the application site for the prop players? and how much does it pay, and also can they benefit from the bonus or comps?

ICEwataNveins · 06-11-2012, 04:10 PM

no, he is just saying that the promotion is essentially paying you as if you are a prop

Steve00007 · 06-11-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MSUspartan4

I don't agree that $2 drop and $2 jackpot is the same as a $4 rake. The players get the $2 from the jackpot back, and then some, when they capitalize on the promotion. $3-$6 limit and higher qualifies for the cashback promo. $2-$4 plays way to small to allow that to qualify.

Most places with a $4 rake will also have a jackpot in addition to the rake, so it's definitely not the same as a lot of the rooms with a $4 rake.