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Old 06-16-2012, 06:51 PM   #1
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Tightest Nit At Table Said I haven't Played a Hand all Day Out Loud

Let me by first say this. When I play live... I normally play a solid game until of course if I'm card dead after 3-4 hours... then i start loosening up because its very hard to play a solid tight game after a few hours and you lose patience. However theres been a few times where i play very nitty because I'm getting complete junk like j4o, 95o etc. No... I don't even get AJ offsuit. There were quite many times i play where in say a 5 hour span... I get a pocket pair like 2 times only and AQ once. Usually when this happens, i use to start raising preflop in MP even when i have something like A3s or K10o or stuff like K6s which is not solid poker at all. However, i have stopped doing this because well you are lighting money on fire. So recently i try to play a solid game and someone at the table made a comment about how patient i was folding so many hands after so many hours. I had told this person yea i been practicing being patient because i usually dont stay patient after some time. There were quite few times when some guy commented to me like in a low voice you been playing pretty tight there but i was never bothered by it since they were playing pretty loose. I usually comment haven't seen a pair or suited connector which is true.


Well a few days later i'm playing again. Now i was playing very tight at this table. My hands were complete trash. I had AK probably once in 3 hours and a suited connector probably twice. I couldn't even get something decent to play with like Q10o so you guys can imagine how carddead i was. The worst part about this table was i was the big stack at $300. The whole table pretty much was full of $40 shortstacks and $60 shortstacks with a few other players with $100 and $150. Table was horribly tight. I had raised preflop with AK to $10 got called by a guy and then this shortstack old guy took a while and went all in for $55 total. I immediately call only to lose to his AA. No biggie.


Now as time went on i folded a lot because i was not getting any hand at all. Suddenly i finally picked up A10 of hearts in EP. I raised to $10. And this old nitty guy 2 seats to my left who waits for the BB every single time he takes a walk and don't post the BB and dead blind and plays even TIGHTER THAN ME during this period... raises his voice and said wow this is the first time i ever seen you play a hand since all day. The thing was he said this like he had a microphone on and said like i guess i can't even play this hand. Then the other guys to him who are old and nitty said yea you're right but you shouldn't be saying this in like a joking way. Everyone folded. I showed a ten and then they go well its only 10s cant be anything else. I couldn't show my a10 because well i had mucked my other card already after that guy made this comment. And that guy with the shortstack who won with his AA vs my AK earlier agreed as well when he was even tighter than me.


I had requested a table change like 10 minutes earlier but then decided to stay at the table because the old guy who made the comment got to my head and i wanted to stack him though it wasn't going to be possible unless it was a cooler. But main reason was because i was going to loosen up to show him I'm not a nit which I am not since i'm not playing 92o and j3o etc. What then happened was i started spewing a lot. I was 3betting $10 raises to $35 with hands like 87o and a3 suited. Same with raising preflop with hands like a5s in ep. Problem here was i got called and then they moved on the flop since they short stack so i hit nothing. Then later on many ppl limped and i raised limpers with hands like 53 and 96 to $20 everytime and each time i showed like the 3 or 9. What ended up happening was i lost a good amount of money doing this since when i got called... they made their hands and I didn't and I couldn't bluff.


The thing was at this table... everyone was tight except for one guy at the table. One of the other old guys had 88 and flopped a set and C/R flop. Then on the turn club came and he ask the other guy you wanna check it down and the other guy agreed. Then river pairs board and then he had full house while other guy probably had just top pair. Should i have commented to him like... you were that scared huh? I didn't make any comment to that guy but i just thought it was humourous he agreed i was very nitty yet he played that set so scared once a flush on board came on the turn and he asked the other guy to check. I mean... he was getting AK and pairs while i was getting junk hands the whole time.


And there was this other tight guy at the table who had 72 in the BB and never said a word. He had flopped 2 bottom 2 pair on an aggressive woman who bet flop and turn hard and river small and he called with 2 pair. I mean .... thats what you call tight yet the other person didn't say anything to him. That guy played more hands than me but when you saw his hands... he had hands to play. If i was him... i would be c/r raising my bottom 2 pair and by the river... instant call river while he contemplating folding it.


And back to that old man that made that comment about me earlier. He only put in more than $10 once the whole time i was there. And that was with a pair of jacks. I think overall in that session after i started spewing chips... i was the loosest person preflop overall.
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:52 PM   #2
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Re: Tightest Nit At Table Said I haven't Played a Hand all Day Out Loud

And at the end... that old man said this table that the guy to my right was action and the guy to his left was action. The thing was those guys were getting AK and big pairs and playing decent starting hands. How is that action? Thats considered normal. Am i right or wrong here? If i had those hands, i would be considered a maniac by many players. And what got me pissed off a bit was the old man who made that comment didn't even comment on the action I was creating when i was spewing so much.


There was another session i played where i raise and reraise preflop so much that this guy to my right actually moved to the other side of the table because i kept raising limpers. And what got me pissed off a bit was the old man who made that comment didn't even comment on the action I was creating when i was spewing so much.


I never talk about people at the table. Like if i see a guy is playing very tight and nitty... I keep it to myself. Its poor manners to say it to someone at the table but anyone think this is just completely out of line when you say it out loud? I mean... if he went and whispered it to his friend on the left... fine... I have no problem with that. He said this like a public announcement the moment i raised it up. The thing was had he been a loose player... I would have never got bothered by bit. I would have said... havent seen a pair or connected cards all day like i do with others. But when he said this... I thought to myself... you're the tightest guy at the table and you make a comment like that to me? I thought, how big of a hypocrite is this guy. I then wanted to say later on i loosened up... when are you going to loosen up but I didn't want to say that because i was leaving soon.


The thing about me is when some ppl make comments like this... it gets to my head and changes my play. Like i know how there are loose players and then see a player playing tight and then making comments to loosen them up. But overall... i play solid and i'm more loose than nitty when i get hands to play with. I overplay a ton of my hands such as overpair and 2 pairs when my opponent has me beat.


This got me to start thinking. Is it wrong to label someone as a nit if they play so few hands during a few hour session? At first i thought yes but then now i feel like its no. Its how you play your hands that determines if you are nitty or loose. Like if you play a set scared or 2 pair very scared.... thats what you call a tight player. Like if any solid player or loose player had the same cards i had during this session.... they would be viewed pretty tight anyways. Also... does anyone here hate being carddead. My problem is not just being carddead... the thing is i hate it because the table would think I'm a nit but truth is i'm getting complete junk.


Would like opinions from you guys on this.
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:35 PM   #3
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:46 PM   #4
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as much as you want to go after the guy that made a comment. what does it matter other than for psychological victory, that it comes from him. as long as i end up winning, does not matter who its from.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:14 PM   #5
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:18 PM   #6
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So ur mad because when he said u were a nit aloud, you felt like everybody was watching you, and you felt very uncomfortable, am I right?
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:34 PM   #7
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I was upset because this guy was TIGHTER than me and he said this.


If he was a loose guy, I would never been bothered. I had people say stuff like this to me before but it didn't bother me at all because they are not nits. I just thought out of all the players at the table... this guy had to make a comment like this. And the whole table was tight except for 1 guy so it wasn't only me playing tight.


There's been also many times where I'm usually the most aggressive player at a table and there have been players who say things like call me the table bully etc. I usually comment like nope i have it even though they know i raise with hands that most players don't raise preflop.



The thing was I was thinking...how the world can this guy make this comment to me when he was even tighter than me.


I was not uncomfortable at all. I'm not a teenager like you.


Back to the topic,


I just couldn't believe this guy could say this when he was clearly the biggest nit at the table. I don't count how many hands people play that much but i played at least 2x more hands than him not counting the blinds before this comment and that was when i was playing pretty damn tight according to my standards. If i was a nit... then he was an ultra nit.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:43 PM   #8
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Re: Tightest Nit At Table Said I haven't Played a Hand all Day Out Loud

Once you hand control of your emotions over to someone else, you've already lost.

No, he shouldn't say anything.

No, it shouldn't bother you.

Yes, you should adapt.

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It sounds like you're not offended by the comment someone made, but more that THIS guy said it. Uh... why? Who cares? The problem here is a violation of OPTAH, but you can't unring a bell. Shrug and move on.

Don't let others control you.
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:54 PM   #9
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What a waste of Internet space to post that load of boring shiit.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:32 PM   #10
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Re: Tightest Nit At Table Said I haven't Played a Hand all Day Out Loud

Basically, it sounds like you got owned by a reg.

It doesn't matter what happens at the table, there are always going to be things beyond your control. The mark of a good winning player is that you ADJUST.

When players start talking about how I'm probably bluffing or tight or nitty then I use it to my advantage. Similarly, I never let it rattle me.

In your case, looks like it rattled you and threw you off your game.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:40 PM   #11
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pfapfap,


I had this type of comment to me a few times when i played before when i play tight. Yes i'm not offended by those other ppl who say it because well they aren't super tight. This guy was the BIGGEST NIT at the table and i was thinking... how in the world can you say something like this to me when u play tighter than me.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:44 PM   #12
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dgiharris. This guy is not a reg. He's one of those old man coffee types except he probably isn't 80 years old. He is like 60 probably.


He bought in for $100 so 50bb. Then as he took a walk and comes back... he did this a few times... then he never post the $2 and that $1 dead blind and wanted to wait for his BB. When people do this... i immediately label them as a nit for not wanting to post and play.


He was playing super nitty poker. Limped for $2 only a few times and when ppl raise to $8 he folds. Only time he put in $10 was with a pair of jacks. And there was a pot where he flopped the 2nd nut straight and checked it on flop and turn and then bet the river and got called when he had monsters under the bed syndrome.


Yes it rattled me and threw me off my game and thats when i started spewing for like 1 hour after that.
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I get that it bothered you. I'm having difficulty understanding why. Why does it bother you that he's nitty? What does it matter? You still seem very rattled by it. Shake it off. Stand up and shake out your arms and hands and go "blurblrublurlbulblurb" and then laugh at yourself. Seriously, it helps.

It seems to me that you might be struggling a bit with poker, and looking for external sources for your troubles. If only they would be better, everything would be okay. But we don't have any control over them. We must strive for inner peace and balance.
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