LOL I retire from this thread. Too much face palming for me. The fold draws big time attention from everyone in the hand. They don't write you off as horrible... they write you off as a super tight nit. If you want that image then make this play.

Your a fish

What started this whole debate was a post ITT saying something like "whenever I see the SB fold for $1 I immediately write them off as horrible."

Right. Horrible was just a shorter way of saying scared-money, no-action, ABC nit. May not be the right term.

Since I consider myself to play somewhat aggressive overall. I'm ok being labeled a nit for folding T3o in the SB for $1.

Folding does not cause a $1 loss. Folding is neutral EV (0). Posting the sb in the first place is negative EV by $1.

things horrible players do....call other players "donkeys" or tell other players "nice suck out" everytime they get beat. It's like, no you jack, I hit top set on the flop, but this donkey will take those chippies.

I know you said you retired from this thread, but in the off-chance you're still following it, would you mind explaining this part for us noobs/nits? How often can you expect to stack someone with 72o in a limped pot, considering that the only "big" hands we ever make with it are crappy two pair, crappy trip, or a crappy boat. Only in the 3rd case are you at all likely to win someone's stack. You're also likely to get stacked by a better boat.

Then there are all the times we hit our "small blind special", try to build a big pot with it (putting our fishy customer on just top pair, lolz), and end up losing when the fish hits his kicker. Oh, then there's the times where we start building the pot, only to figure out that, whoops, the action suggests we're second best after all (it takes us longer to find this out on average because, oh that's right, we're in the worst position at the table). Unless of course you're just indiscriminately stacking off with your 2-pair or trips every time, regardless of the action. That's just compounding your preflop mistake by making a much bigger one postflop.

So again, please explain to us how the big pots we win with 72o (or 92o, or K4o for that matter) make up for all the times we check-fold, and all the times we hit two pair or better and still end up losing.

I don't even play 1/2 but you're most definitely a fish for saying you complete the SB with 27off. I don't even think anyone has brought up the rake considerations, either. I would love to have anyone in my game who completes any two in the SB. We could all just be getting trolled, though.

Loudly telling everyone at the table he knew I had AQ, while stacking my chips, when I opened pre, bet flop, shoved turn on Qxxx and he called from the blinds with QT and rivers me.

(yup..it happened this weekend)

its the absolute worst when they say "i knew it was comming" when they hit the miracle 2 outter

If this has already been addressed excuse me:

Live donkaments, some ****ing fish saying something like "wow, you are really willing to race for your entire tournament life?" when you 3-bet shove AK with like 13bb in a $65 turbo. Always cracks me up.

Players who, even out of the hand, insist that you leave that 500 chip in the table to call a 350 bet because "someone might raise, you know" and then keep complaining the pot is incorrect are usually instantly marked as horrible by me.

Also players who spend 90% of their time talking about their online hands, or their massive $1 6-man SNG win are annoying and downright horrible.

I'm not sure what the first part of this post is trying to say.