Playing at $1/$2 NLHE at my local against a villian 2 seats to my right. I respect villain as he's a solid player, but he's a really prick. 5 hours into the session this hand happens:

Villian raises to $6 in late position.

Hero calls UTG with 2 $5 chips and says to the dealer "this is a call" (I will admit that my actions were not 100% clear however, small mistake) I usually always let everything be known before I do anything.

Before I realize what had happened the dealer points to the villain and he instantly raises to $20.

I said "hey that was a call not a min raise!".

The dealer apologized and thought I said "this is NOT a call", I told her that it's ok, but the raise and re raise stood as it was a dealer mistake..

I turned to the villain however and told him "you're a d***head, and that's a cheap shot that's not in the spirit of the game".
He he said some lame bs and I walked off to get a drink of water and avoid seriously tilting. I felt angry enough to hit this guy.

I've always embraced the concept of not tapping the glass and berating opponents, but the idea of some random taking advantage of me for just $10 was really petty and uncool so I had to tell him. I folded my hand, and knew that the best revenge was playing well, later karma kicked in and was AI with AK v AK and won with a backdoor flushdoor, the villian slowly lost 200BB+.

What would you have done?

UTG, you limped with $2
You "called" a raise to $6 by putting in 2 x $5? $2 + 2*$5 = $12
Why?

In for $2 V makes it $6 to go. You want to call but you put in two reds. You must have been distracted.

Yeah, I don't understand, either. Did you have one red out as a limp, and another added for the call of $6?

Regardless, try to be less wordy. "Call" is all you need to say. In fact, you don't even need to say "call" here. Usually the only time someone speaks up is if it's not a call, so I understand the dealer's confusion.

Seperate from the confusing chip situation already questioned, why in the world did you let the dealer tell you the raise stand because she made a mistake? It's not her decision to make. You should have called the floor. The dealer's excuse is lame. I have never, in my years of playing, EVER heared someone say "this is not a call" when they want to raise. It just doesnt make sense, and wouldnt make sense to a floor eithdr. S most likely he would have ruled your action a call and problem solved.

but given all that, you were completely out of line by then berating and swearing at the villain who raised. If your action is ruled a raise, then he has all options available to him. After all, he now has to at least call a raise that wouldnt have happend except for the ruling. What did you expect him to do? Check down the entire hand after this ruling? You were a total jerk. The V played his hand according to the ruling.

So first, just say call instaed of your weird sentence structure. Second, if you dont like the dealers ruling, call a floor. And third, whatever the ruling is, play the hand accordingly and dont be a giant DB.

I think OP's point was that Villain heard what he said and knew it was a call, but insta-raised to take advantage of the dealer error. He was trying to make Hero's action stand as a raise by putting additional action after it, instead of allowing even a momentary opportunity to clarify.

In my opinion, that is totally a douchebag move. Hero should have called the floor, though. Cardroom management procedures and rules are in place precisely to run an orderly game, so that players don't have to argue among themselves or get into shouting matches about what is what.

In the future, "Call" is sufficient. And make sure you say it before you put the chips down.

the angle the villian pulled is about a 4 in a scale of 1-10 of douche-ness
you berating and cursing at a player is a 9 out of 10 of douche-ness.

i get that you were mad, but learn to control your emotions or dont play games for money. Villian would have been perfectly within his rights to get you 86'd or a warning against you, but then again he didnt want to tap the glass either since you are stacking off for 200bb with AK.

nothing? continued playing poker?

If this guy caused you to tilt like you did, how are you gona react when you get hollywooded? Or when someone sucks out on you in a big pot? these are normal parts of the game

Angle shooters are out there. You are not making it better for yourself by snapping.

Nothing.

Keep hitting backdoor flushdoors, ldo.

At least one person sees my point of view, everyone else at the table also agreed that the move was unsportsmanlike. The cardroom I play at is run really bad for this reason, some dealers will allow the 2 red chips as a call, others will make it a raise.

I had a redchip in for the limp. I tossed in another and said that's a call, I wasn't thinking to hard about it at that point. I 100% should have called the floor, but it was for $10 and I wouldn't have won.

Just to clarify this, I maybe didn't make it clear how much of a douche the villain was.. he was a huge douche. I am usually a nice guy. He pissed me off and I made that perfectly clear to him, where are your balls? Standing up for yourself doesn't make you a douche, not saying anything is cowardly.

I never mentioned stacking off 200bb with AK.. if you want me to run you through the irrelevant hand I can.

Again it was the pettiness of the play that caused me to tilt, all the examples you mentioned with I can deal with just fine..

So, dealer makes a mistake and indicates to the Opponent that you raised.

Your Opponent reraises.

You have no proof that he heard you correctly. The dealer didn't.

So, you don't call for a Floor decision. You don't ask your Opponent to take the raise back. You go off on the Opponent. You have to get up and cool off. Sounds like an anger management issue.

Also, unless you were out of $1's, what's with using $5's all the time?

So if one person out of many sees your point of view, do you take that as validation that you read the situation correctly, and that all those who disagreed with you are wrong?

Actually, you probably would have won, if you are referring to the floor agreeing with you. Even if you had thrown the chip out without saying anything at all, it would have been ruled a call by RROP. Just because a dealer makes a mistake doesn't mean you are stuck with it, as you seem to believe.

Well, you didn't stand up for yourself to the person you should have, which was the dealer who made the mistake. You let her run all over you. But you were clearly a DB because unless you left something out, the V didn't say anything to you at all, did he? He just reraised after the dealer indicated to him that the action was on him. And according to your OP, he actually reraised before you even "realized what was happening" and tried to correct the dealer that it was just a call.

So his raise was already out there. If the dealer wouldn't let you change your action, why to you think she would let him change his, since he made his action before you objected.

Plus, you never did say what you think the proper thing to do was for the rest of the hand. He is also affected by the ruling. He has to fold or call your raise as a minimum. If he didn't reraise as you feel, did you think you were going to check it down after that? If he had AA and you had JJ, on a J 6 7 flop, would you check it down as a "good sport"? Or would you bet? I mean, remember, you didn't even contest the ruling to the floor. What about the turn and river? Play it out or check it down because the hand didn't go as you intended because you didn't bother to call the floor over?

It really sounds like the only one being petty here was you.

Now I have heard everything.

This thread got kinda derailed quicker then I had hoped.

YES, I had no more $1s.

NO, villain knew what had happened and reraised only because he's scummy.

Ok I now know for certain that most people here would pull this move and think it's fine. Thanks.

Nice.

First, this [QUOTE=Prophetability;41437757(I will admit that my actions were not 100% clear however, small mistake)[/QUOTE]wouldn't have happened to me because I realize it's not a small mistake so my actions are always clear.

Second, I wouldn't have gotten too worked up over it even if the floor ruled against me (because I would have called for the floor).

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Assuming I didn't call the floor over to make the right ruling, I would have shrugged, and/or rolled my eyes, and played on.
If Villain reraising you for an extra $10 (when the dealer pointed to him) was "petty and uncool", your totally losing it over the same small $ amount (in an ambiguous situation with a dealer error) was a lot more uncool.
As cheap shots go in poker, this one was really mild (if it was one at all), and if you're going to get that upset over something this small, you're in the wrong game.

OK you only had reds, that explains the first thing. Your OP kinda sounded to me like you put 2 red outs at once after limping. Clearer. I won't pile on about the rest. 1-2 NLH tables have some "dramatic" moments! Play on.

the mistake was on the dealer, a player happened to take advantage of her mistake. What if you were dealt AA in a misdeal - are you gona curse out the dealer?

check out this thread you will find some pretty good information in it. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26...tress-1391324/

Just let the chips speak next time. You're causing more confusion by talking.

This, generally, is bad advice. Letting the chips speak and not clarifying an action is a good way to give the dealer/floor an opportunity to incorrectly understand your actions. That being said, OP complicated things by saying "This is a call" and opposed to simplifying it by saying "call". On a related note - even if OP said "This is NOT a call" and while throwing out a single chip, is it still a raise? I might argue that it's still a call. Saying something like "This is not a call" should be in the same category as things like "I put you all-in" or "pot" in a NL game. Back on topic now...

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OP, it doesn't matter if this guy is the biggest douche-bag on Earth, when you turn to him and say "You're a dickhead", you aren't any better than him, and we aren't going to high-five you through the monitor for being a dick to another dick. Also, not calling the floor is rather silly. Any time a player and the dealer disagree on something, the floor should be called.

That's an interesting conclusion. I can say with confidence that most of the people here would not pull this move. I don't think you're really understanding what's being said here, if that's what you've taken from it.

I'm sorry that this happened. Crappy things happen all the time at poker tables. Best we can do is learn from them.

Villain made a dick move for sure, but hey this is poker you can't let it get it to you, all that is gonna do is tilt you and put you off of your game.

So, the Floor determines what rules get enforced and which ones don't based on the amount of money that's at stake?

Seems fair.

Berating and cursing at a player can be a 9 out of 10 in the "douche-ness" scale, but I don't think what OP said was that bad (his quote is below). If V1 raised to take advantage of the dealer mistake then screw him. I personally wouldn't have said that to V1, but I don't think OP is out of line in saying it either.

I would have called for the floor, but as played I would have just stacked him AK v AK too. If I'm not calling the floor I am at least forcing V1 to lie to me or admit that he raised to take advantage of a dealer error.

"you're a d***head, and that's a cheap shot that's not in the spirit of the game".