CarbonPoker Poker Maximus II Thread - Starts September 6th***Update Post #309***

[dfjksd454]

Originally Posted by CammyCash

Its up.

http://thepokermaximus.com/poker-tournaments.html

Schedules just terrible.
Only 1 O/8, no stud

Guarantees are awful I understand they lost lockpoker but they are still way too low.

For example last maximus event #1 a 10+1 had a prize pool of over $50k
yet the guarantee on this one is $15k

The last maximus $530 main event had a prize pool over over $400k yet guarantee on this one is only $200k

[UnknownName3]

Schedule (for those who might be blocked by firewall):

Thurs, Sept 6th 18:00 Event #1: $15,000 NLH Freezeout $10+1
Thurs, Sept 6th 19:00 Event #2: $60,000 NLH Freezeout $200+15
Thurs, Sept 6th 20:00 Event #3: $30,000 Guaranteed NLH Freezeout $100+9
Fri, Sept 7th 19:00 Event #4: $15,000 Unlimited Rebuy and Addon $10+1
Fri, Sept 7th 20:00 Event #5: $20,000 Second Chance NLH (3000/5000) $30+1
Fri, Sept 7th 19:00 Event #6: $30,000 NLH Freezeout $100+9
Sat, Sept 8th 16:00 Event #7: $10,000 NLH Freezeout $10+1
Sat, Sept 8th 16:00 Event #8: $20,000 Unlimited Rebuys / 1 Addon NLH $30+1
Sat, Sept 8th 16:00 Event #9: $50,000 NLH Freezeout $200+15
Sun, Sept 9th 15:00 Event #10: $10,000 Guaranteed Heads Up NLH $30+3
Sun, Sept 9th 16:00 Event #11: $60,000 Unlimited Rebuys and 1 Addon $55+5
Sun, Sept 9th 16:00 Event #12: $125,000 Guaranteed NLH $500+30
Sun, Sept 9th 17:00 Event #13: $TBA Fixed Limit Holdem $55+5
Mon, Sept 10th 20:00 Event #14: $10,000 PLO Freezeout $10+1
Mon, Sept 10th 19:00 Event #15: $20,000 Guaranteed $30+3
Mon, Sept 10th 20:00 Event #16: $40,000 NLH Freezeout $100+1
Tues, Sept 11th 16:00 Event #17: $10,000 Guaranteed NLH Second Chance (Option of 1 Rebuy) $10+1
Tues, Sept 11th 17:00 Event #18: $30,000 Guaranteed NLH Freezeout $55+5
Tues, Sept 11th 15:00 Event #19: $75,000 Guaranteed NLH Freezeout $200+15
Wed, Sept 12th 16:00 Event #20: $15,000 NLH Freezeout $10+1
Wed, Sept 12th 17:00 Event #21: $40,000 NLH Freezeout $100+9
Wed, Sept 12th 19:00 Event #22: $10,000 Guaranteed HORSE $30+3
Thurs, Sept 13th 20:00 Event #23: $20,000 NLH Freezeout $30+3
Thurs, Sept 13th 19:00 Event #24: $20,000 HORSE $200+15
Thurs, Sept 13th 20:00 Event #25: $15,000 Pot Limit OMAHA $55+5
Fri, Sept 14th 19:00 Event #26: $15,000 Guaranteed NLH $10+1
Fri, Sept 14th 20:00 Event #27: $40,000 Guaranteed Unlimited Rebuys and 1 Addon $10+1
Fri, Sept 14th 19:00 Event #28: $10,000 PLO8 - Deepstack Freezeout $30+3
Sat, Sept 15th 16:00 Event #29: $40,000 - NLH - Unlimited Rebuys and 1 Addon $55+5
Sat, Sept 15th 17:00 Event #30: $10,000 NLH Turbo $30+3
Sat, Sept 15th 16:00 Event #31: $25,000 Guaranteed No Limit Holdem $100+9
Sun, Sept 16th 15:00 Event #32: $30,000 NLH Freezeout $10+1
Sun, Sept 16th 15:00 Event #33: $40,000 NLH Second Chance (One Rebuy Available) $30+3
Sun, Sept 16th 15:00 Main Event Low Stakes: $150,000 Guaranteed NLH Freezeout $55+5
Sun, Sept 16th 16:00 Main Event High Stakes: $200,000 Guaranteed NLH Freezeout $500+30

[UnknownName3]

IMO, the 2 contributing factors to lower guarantees:
1. Lock leaving Merge
2. Direct schedule conflict with PokerStars WCOOP

I'm not really sure why it was chosen for September, albeit many Merge players are US citizens (w/o access to PokerStars).

I'm surprised the schedule's shorter and has fewer tournaments.
Even though there are more runners in most PLO8 MTTs, there's only 1 on the schedule!? There were more last series...

PLO has 2
HORSE has 2
PLO8 has 1
LHE has 1

[j9cx18]

Epic fail and proof that Merge doesn't listen to players or care to make good decisions to increase ROW traffic. No longer looking forward to this.

[CarbonChris]

Originally Posted by j9cx18

Epic fail and proof that Merge doesn't listen to players or care to make good decisions to increase ROW traffic. No longer looking forward to this.

I don't agree that it's proof of that at all. And people still say 'epic fail'?

[j9cx18]

Originally Posted by CarbonChris

I don't agree that it's proof of that at all. And people still say 'epic fail'?

When it's deserving. Good attempt at subtle sarcasim though, even though I think this schedule does a better job.

[CarbonChris]

Originally Posted by j9cx18

When it's deserving. Good attempt at subtle sarcasim though, even though I think this schedule does a better job.

Not sarcastic, very real question.

Also, beyond just blanket hating of the schedule, is there any actual feedback that you have?

[j9cx18]

Originally Posted by CarbonChris

Not sarcastic, very real question.

Also, beyond just blanket hating of the schedule, is there any actual feedback that you have?

My feedback is honestly that this schedule stinks overall.

Pros:

1. Still decent guarantees post Lock departure...I understand these.
2. I like that there are still some lower buy-in tourneys.
3. Hardly any turbos like last time...at least from what I can see.

Cons:

1. Still primarily focused on nothing but NLHE and for me, this out trumps all the pros. From the forum comments, everyone wants more variety. There really should be a tourney for every type of game offered by Merge.

[CarbonChris]

Originally Posted by j9cx18

My feedback is honestly that this schedule stinks overall.

Pros:

1. Still decent guarantees post Lock departure...I understand these.
2. I like that there are still some lower buy-in tourneys.
3. Hardly any turbos like last time...at least from what I can see.

Cons:

1. Still primarily focused on nothing but NLHE and for me, this out trumps all the pros. From the forum comments, everyone wants more variety. There really should be a tourney for every type of game offered by Merge.

I personally could have seen adding a second limit event and maybe another PLO8 as well, but the tournaments selected reflect what our players play. I understand that perhaps the tastes on 2+2 are more diverse, but our player base at large is pretty reasonably reflected in the game variety shown here.

[j9cx18]

Originally Posted by CarbonChris

I personally could have seen adding a second limit event and maybe another PLO8 as well, but the tournaments selected reflect what our players play. I understand that perhaps the tastes on 2+2 are more diverse, but our player base at large is pretty reasonably reflected in the game variety shown here.

But this mentality is why Merge will never grow any more than it already is. I hate to sound so negative, but I don't get why more and more sites don't follow the Pstars model. Take WCOOP for instance. Follow that schedule with a smaller guarantee model to project what might be played on your site.

The goal of a business shouldn't just be satisfying current customers, it should be attracting new ones and unfortunately, this series won't do that.

[Star Wolf 64]

I think the worst part of the schedule is that there are very few 100-200$ games. If you are attempting to entice ppl to play on your site with large gtds then $10-$60 games won't generate a big enough prizepool to get someone excited and 500 is too expensive to take a shot and try out a site. You guys really missed the boat by not have a $100 or $200 500k gtd

[CarbonChris]

Originally Posted by j9cx18

But this mentality is why Merge will never grow any more than it already is. I hate to sound so negative, but I don't get why more and more sites don't follow the Pstars model. Take WCOOP for instance. Follow that schedule with a smaller guarantee model to project what might be played on your site.

The goal of a business shouldn't just be satisfying current customers, it should be attracting new ones and unfortunately, this series won't do that.

There are a variety of logical fallacies here. Among them, that just taking WCOOPs schedule/format and simply dividing it by the our player base size. There are many reasons why that is not the optimal strategy for us.

[Star Wolf 64]

Originally Posted by CarbonChris

I personally could have seen adding a second limit event and maybe another PLO8 as well, but the tournaments selected reflect what our players play. I understand that perhaps the tastes on 2+2 are more diverse, but our player base at large is pretty reasonably reflected in the game variety shown here.

People play NLHE because there isn't anything good in terms of the other games. For PLO and HORSE you guys have 2 gtds/week for them and they aren't even particularly good gtds. Furthermore there are simply no other games in the realm of playability. Personally I would love to play a razz or badugi game but the biggest buy-ins for those is $3.30.

[CarbonChris]

Originally Posted by Star Wolf 64

People play NLHE because there isn't anything good in terms of the other games. For PLO and HORSE you guys have 2 gtds/week for them and they aren't even particularly good gtds. Furthermore there are simply no other games in the realm of playability. Personally I would love to play a razz or badugi game but the biggest buy-ins for those is $3.30.

Like I prefaced before, I may have preferred a little more variety in games, but people need to manage their expectations and look at the situation a little bit. Running the X number of NLH games is better for the network(and not just in terms of rake, but in terms of attracting new players), and subsequently our players, than running a Badugi tournament at this point.

We are interested in having a situation where we can expand what's available.

[CarbonChris]

Also, for what it's worth, there is a smaller percentage of NLH events in PMII as there was in the original PM.