CarbonPoker.ag Tournament Improvement Thread - Page 10 - Carbon Poker

Max Cut · 10-19-2011, 02:03 PM

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FruitFly Room - Super Turbo STT

Buy In: $1.00
Fee: $0.06
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Nice addition, imo.

Rake observation:

$1 = 6%
$2 = 8% <<----- oops
$5 = 6%
$10 = 5%
$20 = 4.5%

jdawg91 · 10-19-2011, 02:10 PM

Adding $1s is awful considering the $2s dont run enough as is.

The rake is pure robbery at all levels

Max Cut · 10-19-2011, 02:32 PM

Seems like it should have some possibility of "stimulating the economy" without killing the $2s. Just a total guess, obv.

I guess they'll milk the rake on these as long as they can -- mbn to have a near monopoly.

Hard to be sure without access to the actual numbers, but it does seem like they've slowed down a bit recently.

**CarbonChris** · 10-19-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

Hard to be sure without access to the actual numbers, but it does seem like they've slowed down a bit recently.

Yesterday was our biggest day on the site in a couple of months.

Rusemandingo · 10-19-2011, 05:38 PM

Ya traffic is way up. Josh was getting in 200 games an hour the other day.

Chris, I dont get adding a 1 dollar super turbo. The 2s are pretty dead and i dont see many of the .10 grinders now moving up because the next price point is $1 instead of $2 I think adding either a $7.50 one or a $15 one would be better for both your total rake and for grinders. I think the $15 one with 4.7% rake would be the best. There are a lot of grinders that play 20s and above now that might add that one in but wont add in 10s now.

**CarbonChris** · 10-19-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jdawg91

Adding $1s is awful considering the $2s dont run enough as is.

As with almost all of the changes that are made, it's something that we'll evaluate going forward. Nothing is really set in stone, and if we find it's negatively effecting other games, it's something that will be looked at.

Max Cut · 10-19-2011, 07:08 PM

lol @ 200 games per hour. Indeed I remember him gushing about how supers were loading so fast for him. </sarcasm>

Just noticed the $1 sups start with 1500 chips. Nice. Better rake AND structure than the $2s

**CarbonChris** · 10-19-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

lol @ 200 games per hour. Indeed I remember him gushing about how supers were loading so fast for him. </sarcasm>

Just noticed the $1 sups start with 1500 chips. Nice. Better rake AND structure than the $2s

Thanks for the feedback Max Cut. If you play those, enjoy!

**CarbonChris** · 10-19-2011, 10:09 PM

**********UPDATE**********

Here are some more changes to the current offerings. We are also going to be offering Aussie Millions Satellites and a one off $15,000 Guaranteed Grand final on December 18.

*** MTT CHANGES ***

- The 20.00 $60 Freezeout has been changed from 2k starting stack to 3k.

- The 00.00 1R/1A $4,500k Guarantee has been changed to $5,000.

- $1,500 Guaranteed Turbo Freezeout has now been changed to a $2,000 Guarantee.

***SNG CHANGES***

- There is now a $1.06 - 6 man Super Turbo SnG available for players. This covers the gap between $0.11 and $2.16.

***AUSSIE MILLIONS SATELLITES***

Satellites to the Aussie Millions will be starting from the 29th of this month after the current WPT Prague Satellites have ended.

At this stage, there will be a $550 - 1 ticket Guaranteed Grand Final on Sunday the 18th December at $13.00 (5k Starting Stacks and 15 min levels starting at 10/20)

Listed below are the Satellites that will be available from as little $1.

- $1.10 Rebuy Frenzy - $60 Coupon Satellite.
- $5.50 Rebuy Frenzy - $550 Coupon Satellite.
- $11 Winner take all - $60 Coupon Satellite.
- $11 Rebuy - $550 Coupion Satellite.
- $33 second chance - $550 Coupon Satellite.
- $60 NLH Freezeout - $550 Coupon Satellite.
- $95.80 - 6 Man Super Turbo SNG - $550 Coupon Satellite.

Please feel free to offer any feedback. Thanks.

jdawg91 · 10-20-2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

lol @ 200 games per hour. Indeed I remember him gushing about how supers were loading so fast for him. </sarcasm>

Just noticed the $1 sups start with 1500 chips. Nice. Better rake AND structure than the $2s

@Bolded Part: I only play now when i think I can get 125+ games/hr, the last week I've avg'd 165/hr. I think Ruse is still getting nearly the same # of games/hr, maybe slightly higher maxing out around 100 games/hr. Nobody gets more than him either (maybe norcalchemtrails but i dont think so) because everyone is god awful at multitabling, I end up 25+ tabling a lot of the time without problem; most from what I see avg ~10-15 tables up at a time.

Okay Chris, so you added $1.06 super turbos that start deeper stacked than the $2s....how do you defend the fact that the $2.16's are raked at 8% and the $1.06's are raked at 6%?

Max Cut · 10-20-2011, 03:56 AM

The $2 supers are now raked at $0.12 ---- weeeeee! Maybe there's hope after all.

Next up, structure change or rake on the $5 supers?

#stepintherightdirection

jdawg91 · 10-20-2011, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

The $2 supers are now raked at $0.12 ---- weeeeee! Maybe there's hope after all.

Next up, structure change or rake on the $5 supers?

#stepintherightdirection

thanks Chris

And yea, honestly, the rake is too high at every level, but i guess slowly stepping in the right direction is better than no steps being taken at all

**CarbonChris** · 10-20-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jdawg91

thanks Chris

And yea, honestly, the rake is too high at every level, but i guess slowly stepping in the right direction is better than no steps being taken at all

Yeah, we hear you guys on this stuff and will keep trying to make adjustments to find a happy medium. Glad to see you're happy with the changes.

tyson219 · 10-20-2011, 07:12 PM

Chris,

Hand for hand at Final Table bubbles is weird. Hand for hand stops once 9 players remain. However, the final two tables do not merge until both tables have played a hand. If one hand is taking a long time at one of the tables, the other table has, at times, played upto 5-6 hands. The hand for hand should remain in effect until the tables have merged.

Hope this makes sense. If not, I'll explain in more detail.

**CarbonChris** · 10-20-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tyson219

Chris,

Hand for hand at Final Table bubbles is weird. Hand for hand stops once 9 players remain. However, the final two tables do not merge until both tables have played a hand. If one hand is taking a long time at one of the tables, the other table has, at times, played upto 5-6 hands. The hand for hand should remain in effect until the tables have merged.

Hope this makes sense. If not, I'll explain in more detail.

Thanks for for input tyson219. Our Development Team needs a bit more information here to look into this situation. Can you please provide me with and specifics? Tournament ID's and/or Hand ID? Anything that would help us zero in on the issue.