The first thing to know it's spread limit not no limit - Arizona has a maximum bet of $500, so let's say you bet 100, even if the V has 1k he can only make it 600 to go. In terms of games, the "how's Del Sol" may depend on what kind of games you played in Connecticut - most of the games at Del Sol are 1-2 blind "NL" and games like 4-8 limit O-8 or or O-8 plus Stud-8 and a few very low limit games like 2-4 LHE. We've been trying to get 2-5 blind spread limit, 500max buyin off, and it runs some nights. If you want 2-5 blind try Friday or Saturday evenings.

I play at Del Sol and Desert Diamond. Not so much late at night anymore but I need to change that. Take more naps at my age.

I agree with the buffet at Del Sol poker rooms suks big time. Don't eat it. Last Saturday I had the rice/sausage and something else and it upset my stomach and I'm not a picky eater.

Played the 1/2 game. Bunch of rocks waiting on the nuts. Almost any raise won the blinds.

It's close and it's poker but compared to Phoenix and Vegas it's pretty lame.

with the holiday there are usually a bunch of people from out of town donking off money. Tonight might be a good night.

how often does the the 4/8 kill game go at DD? how many tables? how soft is the action? same questions for the 8/16 game?

thanks

Just curious if anyone has started a home game?

anyone want to start a home game? I really hate driving down to del sol, i am up in the foothills. I would love to get a consistent home game going, preferably mix games but i could live with a 2/5 nL or maybe a NLHE/PLO mix.

Also if anyone would like to play some Open face chinese for <10pt i'd be down. let me know.

I'm glad to see this thread back on topic.

Del Sol BBJ $42k last I checked.

The free food still sucks but, you can now qualify for a free hotel room, certain days, play 5 hours live, free hotel room. It's a nice place in the winter. Complete resort and golf course.

Come by, say hello, make me feel like a psycho for rambling in this thread, it's OK. I'm actually a really nice person.

P.S. Bill .... I no longer wear my hat, where I got my MS ... I wear a U of A hat. That's where I got my BFA. Blends in easier. Haven't seen you around. Hey .. more fish for me.

I got a known drug dealer sleeping in my guest room right now. I was engaged to a Mexican girl when I was 19 .. wells. Barrio Sam Hughes. Tucson High class of 88. But this scene cracks me up every time. "2 PAIR! 2 PAIR!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76HvZMPJ0PA

Mexican women are a whole nother story. I do like me, some caramel wimins.

ETA: I hope that doesn't sound racist, and I apologize in advance if it sounded that way. Mexican, gang member types don't scare me. Mexican women do. All I meant to say. I wonder if, growing up in Arizona and being in a public school system influenced my attraction to Hispanic women. I'm a product of my environment.

And on the poker table ... yeah, I see it a lot .... it's a machismo thing ... again I don't mean to be racist, but most Mexican men I see at the poker table have no patience. Mexican women are devious, on the other hand. Tricky.

Don't underestimate them.

Update: Del Sol jackpot up to 47k.

Does anyone play at Desert Diamond? I collect $5 chips from everywhere I play, but I lost this one and won't realistically be in Tucson again.

Are there any trusting players who would be willing to grab me a great-condition $5 chip and mail it to me in Baltimore? I'll pay you, plus postage, any way you want!

Thank you!

I used to play at Del Sol all the fn time. loved that place.

Del Sol is one of the softest rooms ive ever played at. Played yesterday 1/2 nl and won 450. I'll probably be there again today. I just keep table changing until i find the deepest table. It's simple, when these old guys raise they have it almost every time and they are very easy to read with bet sizing. Just gotta be careful of the nitty short stacks and not to play marginal hands vs. them even in position. Del Sol aka Value Townnnn

just played a session at the del sol.. super soft.. pretty decent room, enjoyable night.

Can anyone give me a deal on some rooms for the oct 21 an 22nd?

I don't think anyone from CdS follows this thread, so you probably won't get much help on hotel rates. Of course if you already have comps you may have enough for a discount.

Best to call the hotel is my guess. What kind of games are you looking for?

I used to live in Tucson & played poker there all the time between about 1993 to about 2002. Actually, I was playing the 1st day they opened the 1st casino, it wasn't the DD, but I think it was called Casino of the Sun.

At one of the Indian Casinos (they all were).....because of some type of law the house wasn't allowed to back any blackjack. But for some reason I'm not sure of....they were allowed to spread it and deal it if one of the people that was a reg. there or somebody that heard about it......would be the person putting up the money to run the games themself.

So you had people tripping over each other to be the house against the players in BJ. The person would have to be checked out to see if they were clean and had enough money to handle it if the house got killed once in a while. I'm not sure of what the limits were, but I know they were at least $100 a hand.

They may have changed depending on who was backing the games that day.
Usually the person backing the game would be sitting there watching it to see how they were doing.

One more thing....I was surprised how much abuse some of these dealers took from some real s-bags. One night a guy that had that M.O. walked up to an empty BJ table and bet $100 on each spot - I forget how many Blackjack players sit at one table, around 7 I think?

Anyway, this guy hits a few hands and busts out. And he stood on the rest of the hands with like 18 to 20. And if I remember, this young girl that was dealing had a face card showing and when she turned up the other card it was a 6.....and as luck would have it, she pulls out the next card and its a 5.

Well this guy started cursing all sorts of foul stuff about her & I think she was just very young and hadn't run into these types before and she started crying and left the room while he's behind her telling her it was her fault that he lost $700 in a few minutes in between the nasty stuff he was saying.

I don't want to finish that right now with some more info....but that was mainly the deal.

I remember that there were bad beat jackpots there and for a while they were rigged. It was done on graveyard shift. Shift manager in on it. Dealer too of course. A prop player was always involved. And they always had a blocker for the camera for the BBJ table where the Jackpot got hit.

Eventually too many people knew or were suspicious and there was some kind of investigation. Shift manager gone....don't remember how it all played out.

But when the Desert Diamond opened....thats where the traffic went because it was much cleaner & more professionally run. It was on Valencia Road on the South Side. I'm talking like 1993 or 4 to 2001 or 2.

When it was on Valencia there was plenty of action although it was all limit. Spread Hold-em Omaha/8 and seven stud mostly. If u played a lot u got to know most of the people. Most afternoons they had $3-$6 and $6-$12 going and at night usually a $10-$20.

Busy weekends....usually a $15-$30 & rarely a $20-$40. There were some real characters around then. If somebody posted a player in those times here....90% chance I'd know them.

But they ruined it.....they moved it from Valencia Road and put it several miles further away down the highway in the middle of nowhere & most of the action dried up. That was a bummer.

You could always drive up around the Phoeniz area and they had bigger games there too.....but if I remember....and I should....it was about a 90 mile drive & not many folks from Tucson would make the 3 hour round-trip drive too often. I moved to GA in November of 2003 & haven't played in a brick and mortar since....& I miss them. Online poker for Americans sucks now although it was really good until 2006....all downhill from there IMHO.

Wow does time go by fast. And you know that where there is a lot of money around, you got some bad apples. They used to have promos like giving away a brand new nice car of some kind & how it workyed was that every time you got a really strong hand in hold-em....you got to fill out a slip.....and they would put all the slips in a wire tubular thing (theres a name for these, but can't pull it up right now) & all these slips would end up in there. On prize day, somebody would spin the thing around and pull out a slip with the winners name on it.

And one of the times.....I guy I knew pretty well said a few minutes b4 the draw.....the cars mine....you watch and see. And he didn't play nearly as much as a lot of the regs. Anyway - he did win the car. I'm guessing the guy that drew the slip had palmed one with this guys name on it and they had some kind of deal worked out.

And I saw it done again......twice altogether. A guy that almost never played. He was too busy snorting coke & chasing women. He probably had one or two slips in there as opposed to some of the regs that may have had 200. And he came that day for the drawing. What a coincidence. And yep - he won - it was 2 cars this time I think but I don't remember for sure.

But over-all, when the Diamond was on Valencia, it was good times playing cards. And they always had at least 1 or 2 games running all night.

I could tell some interesting stories from those days....but I doubt too many people on this forum were regs there during those years and I'm tired of typing.

I'll mention 1 other thing now. When they spread Omaha/8 some of the Indian dealers didn't have a clue. Especially when maybe 2 players split low and 1 for high & there were sidepots for a player that was all-in & they couldn't figure out who had the best low hand....the players basically ran those games by telling the dealer what to do.

Although sometimes with a whole lot of stuff going on in a hand - you had to cut them some slack because it wasn't an easy thing to do early in a dealers career.

Oh, I got a better story thats funny & interesting and anybody around those days would remember this.....but I'll post it some time in the near future...too tired now.

Recently returned from a vacation in Tucson. Played several days at DD in the 4/8 O8 game and most of the time it was 8/16 since the Kill was in effect. GREAT action and a very soft game. What impressed me the most was the players were genuinely nice, the dealers were accurate and kept the game going at a good pace, the floor personnel working the room were incredibly professional. By my second night, they got to know my name and treat me as if I had played there on a regular basis. The best night to play in the 4/8 O8 game seemed to be Tuesday night since a lot of regs come out to play the 7pm NL tournament and the room fills to capacity. Once people busted out they filled a must move game that went all night. I didn't stay long enough to play Friday/Saturdays but I hear there is a very strong 8/16 O8 that goes with many of the same players who play the 4/8.

i played pretty heavy at del sol and less at DD from 2002-2007. kinda funny i live in GA now too.

Dex, thanks for the great post! Looking forward to seeing more from you.