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10-07-2009 , 04:07 PM
Well I'm not into baseball but if there's beer involved I might try going to a game sometime.


LOL...welcome to baseball heaven and good luck walking up to a NLDS game in STL this weekend!
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10-08-2009 , 11:21 PM
HPT is coming to Ameristar on Nov. 6th - Nov. 15th. This is a great opportunity for us little guys to make a "TV table" since they film the final table.
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10-09-2009 , 03:09 AM
I'll be making my first live poker appearance today (Fri) for my 21st bday @ Harrah's. Hope to see some of you there...TR to follow poss? (assuming it's entertaining enough)
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10-09-2009 , 12:28 PM
is PLO played anywhere still? I remember a game running for a couple weekends at lumiere a few months ago and a weekend 2/5 game at harrahs, but i haven't played live in awhile.
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10-09-2009 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDespot
I'll be making my first live poker appearance today (Fri) for my 21st bday @ Harrah's. Hope to see some of you there...TR to follow poss? (assuming it's entertaining enough)
You should show up for Mini-Magoo-Fest there hoss!

al
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10-09-2009 , 01:39 PM
I played at Harrah's a few weeks ago, it's a pretty nice room (and very spacious). Has the BBJ been hit yet? That thing was huge when I was there (about $330K). Also, I met Dennis Phillips! He was very nice and down to earth. He was there with Nelly.
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10-09-2009 , 01:44 PM
Nelly, and Dennis Phillips. Poker does make strange bedfellows.
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10-09-2009 , 03:45 PM
The bad beat was hit a week ago today, and the secondary fund (which is now the BBJ) is almost up to 300k again.
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10-10-2009 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Al_Capone_Junior
You should show up for Mini-Magoo-Fest there hoss!

al
Haha why is this shindig called "Mini-Magoo Fest"? Just curious.

I'm actually going to be out of town (I go to WashU) most of that weekend. I'm getting back Saturday night though. Also supremely -EV to play in a game with 2p2'ers compared to the average player there haha. I only played in the little daily $60 FO today, and let's just say the play wasn't exactly great. Pretty cool how they do the Tournament of Champions there once a month though where if you finish Top 3 in any of the daily FO's you get a free entry and first is $10k in that tournament. Yet the only reason I found out about it was because this nice guy struck up a conversation with me on my break during the FT when there were 4 left and he told me how I should keep that in mind about trying to finish in the top 3. None of the casino staff even mentioned it. Meh w/e, not a huge deal. Perhaps I will be seeing some of you in that next month...

This being said, any idea if you'll be at Harrah's on the Sunday of that weekend? Maybe I'll be able to make it out then. What kind of stakes/games do you generally play when you do this gathering (since it seems like this type of thing has been done before)?

And btw, this being my first live poker playing experience aside from home games, just want to say how funny it is seeing some of the characters you see at these tables. Can't make the stuff up lol. I had a blast.
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10-10-2009 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDespot
Haha why is this shindig called "Mini-Magoo Fest"? Just curious.

I'm actually going to be out of town (I go to WashU) most of that weekend. I'm getting back Saturday night though. Also supremely -EV to play in a game with 2p2'ers compared to the average player there haha. I only played in the little daily $60 FO today, and let's just say the play wasn't exactly great. Pretty cool how they do the Tournament of Champions there once a month though where if you finish Top 3 in any of the daily FO's you get a free entry and first is $10k in that tournament. Yet the only reason I found out about it was because this nice guy struck up a conversation with me on my break during the FT when there were 4 left and he told me how I should keep that in mind about trying to finish in the top 3. None of the casino staff even mentioned it. Meh w/e, not a huge deal. Perhaps I will be seeing some of you in that next month...

This being said, any idea if you'll be at Harrah's on the Sunday of that weekend? Maybe I'll be able to make it out then. What kind of stakes/games do you generally play when you do this gathering (since it seems like this type of thing has been done before)?

And btw, this being my first live poker playing experience aside from home games, just want to say how funny it is seeing some of the characters you see at these tables. Can't make the stuff up lol. I had a blast.
I'm going to transfer this question to the , Mini-Magoo-Fest thread, here.

al
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10-10-2009 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by muskogeesmalls
Harrah's BBJ was at $346k when i left at 6pm tonight
I was in the room later that nite (last Friday).
IT HIT on table 4 for $349000+

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Originally Posted by Straight Lifted
I dont understand why people think lumiere's staff is so good. Maybe the dealers are OK but the management besides Craig completely blows. They have no ****ing idea what they r doing and they all give different answers on ruling. It almost seems like some of them don't even know/understand the basic rules of the game. They tilt me so ****ing hard by being completely incompetent that I become worse before i even sit down.
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Originally Posted by Lucere
And while I also think their card room managers act very inexperienced at times
The dealers at Lumiere are the best in Saint Louis. Best house brings the best dealers. BUT these FLOORMEN!

Last edited by Rapini; 10-10-2009 at 11:47 AM. Reason: B&M FAQ G.8.
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10-11-2009 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
He was a machine.
I see him play 5-10 at Lumiere when I'm there on Tuesday (I think), I hear he does well.

He always had so much money at the 2-5 table, and he's always do his patented huge raise preflop move.

Bets $30
Calls $30
Calls $30
Then Adams would make it $150, and pick up $90. Seemed like he did that once a round or every other round.
And if someone called him, he'd be around $300 on the flop no matter what. So you knew you're getting involved with about $400, and if you just sat down with $500 you'd better have KK or AA.
sounds like this guy picks up QQ a lot...mbn.
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10-11-2009 , 07:35 PM
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The dealers at Lumiere are the best in Saint Louis. Best house brings the best dealers. BUT these FLOORMEN!
I agree that the dealers at Lumiere are by far the best in St. Louis and I would put my dealers up against dealers from any region.
I'm not sure if the animosity for the floor staff is coming from legitimate concerns or personal prejudices on this forum. Every poker floorman makes a mistake from time to time but I feel that Lumiere has very consistent floormen compared with other poker rooms and that we are the most player friendly room by far with the level of comps and service that the players recieve.
We protect our games from players that will try to manipulate or take advantage of rules by shooting angles. Protecting our players from these angle shooters is one of our top priorities as I feel that we have many players in our room that are very new to poker. These angle shooters have a negative effect for everyone as they will take advantage of a new player that is not as familiar with the rules and that player leaves with a bad image of our regulars and perhaps gives up casino poker all together.
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10-12-2009 , 02:40 AM
Hey all, quick Q, what should we take to get to Lumiere for us people east of the river with MLK being closed tomorrow (Oct 12-23). Metrolink go anywhere close?
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10-12-2009 , 02:51 AM
Lumiere is right next to the Dome, so whatever Metrolink stop is right by the dome should work.
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10-12-2009 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MidwestFloor
I agree that the dealers at Lumiere are by far the best in St. Louis and I would put my dealers up against dealers from any region.
I'm not sure if the animosity for the floor staff is coming from legitimate concerns or personal prejudices on this forum. Every poker floorman makes a mistake from time to time but I feel that Lumiere has very consistent floormen compared with other poker rooms and that we are the most player friendly room by far with the level of comps and service that the players recieve.
We protect our games from players that will try to manipulate or take advantage of rules by shooting angles. Protecting our players from these angle shooters is one of our top priorities as I feel that we have many players in our room that are very new to poker. These angle shooters have a negative effect for everyone as they will take advantage of a new player that is not as familiar with the rules and that player leaves with a bad image of our regulars and perhaps gives up casino poker all together.
Biggest bunch of double talking BS I have heard from the Staff at Lumiere...you should reveal your identity if you are going to imply comments are from angle shooters. The fact remains that the floor AND management at Lumiere is lacking experience. The great toke rate brought the better dealers and motivates them to perform accordingly. The location brings the games and fish. Quit patting yourselves on the back down there...

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10-12-2009 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
you should reveal your identity if you are going to imply comments are from angle shooters
Angle shooters certainly don't reveal their identities. Why should an employee of a specific casino reveal their true identity when they obviously have so much to lose by doing so? One false move, one statement that an executive comes across that even appears to be negative towards the casino and the employee who has revealed their true identity will find themselves without a job. Meanwhile the player, whether angle shooter or not, whether posting under real name or not, has nothing to lose except maybe a little face on an otherwise faceless forum.

I don't know the specifics of this situation so I won't comment, but trying to goad an employee into revealing their true identity because you don't agree with them is wrong.

al
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10-12-2009 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MidwestFloor
I agree that the dealers at Lumiere are by far the best in St. Louis and I would put my dealers up against dealers from any region.
I'm not sure if the animosity for the floor staff is coming from legitimate concerns or personal prejudices on this forum. Every poker floorman makes a mistake from time to time but I feel that Lumiere has very consistent floormen compared with other poker rooms and that we are the most player friendly room by far with the level of comps and service that the players recieve.
We protect our games from players that will try to manipulate or take advantage of rules by shooting angles. Protecting our players from these angle shooters is one of our top priorities as I feel that we have many players in our room that are very new to poker. These angle shooters have a negative effect for everyone as they will take advantage of a new player that is not as familiar with the rules and that player leaves with a bad image of our regulars and perhaps gives up casino poker all together.
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
Biggest bunch of double talking BS I have heard from the Staff at Lumiere...you should reveal your identity if you are going to imply comments are from angle shooters. The fact remains that the floor AND management at Lumiere is lacking experience. The great toke rate brought the better dealers and motivates them to perform accordingly. The location brings the games and fish. Quit patting yourselves on the back down there...
Where did he imply comments were from an angle shooter? I certainly didn't make that inference when I originally read his post.

I thought it was just a general description of how they ran the room and protected newcomers from angle shooters.

Based on your reply, I get the idea you think he was making an obscure reference to you. Backstory?
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10-13-2009 , 01:05 AM
What size fields has Ameristar been getting for the mid-week $40-45 tournaments? I haven't been there in a while, but heard the room is dead because of the BBJ at Harrah's.
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10-13-2009 , 02:15 AM
I'll be in St. Louis for a job interview this week. I didn't realize Lumiere was right down town! I won't have enough time to stay and play, but I might peek in to take a look. If I get the job, I'm going to become a horrible degen given that my place of work would be like a 10 minute walk away.
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10-13-2009 , 12:20 PM
I thought Lumiere had the nicest actual casino and the most comfortable poker room, but I thought the dealers there were worse than at Harrah's or Ameristar.

The floor people seemed nice and they were very helpful, but the dealers talked too much, made too many errors and seemed to be less polished than the other places. In fact, at TWO of the tables I was playing at, the dealers were bragging about how they had people removed from games the night before.

It was a small sample size (I only played there and the other casinos three days), but it was long enough to form an opinion.
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10-13-2009 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlotte FatMan
The floor people seemed nice and they were very helpful, but the dealers talked too much, made too many errors and seemed to be less polished than the other places. In fact, at TWO of the tables I was playing at, the dealers were bragging about how they had people removed from games the night before.
Wow. Just wow.

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I have played live poker in Saint Louis since 1993. I have played 12-14000 hours in local Casinos. I have played poker in over 50 Casinos
The Lumiere staff is fine. The dealers are ample, the facility is grand, the location is ideal and the games are pretty good. Comps are unsurpassed for poker players. The Charlotte FatMan story does not surprise me. He is accurate that many dealers should concentrate more and talk less. I have always found 95% Lumiere's staff to be pleasant and competent. BUT there are a few Floor Staff that consistently ruined my gaming experience. I played Lumiere daily for 150 days. I do not play there anymore for whatever reason. While I played there, there were many floormen I admired and respected. Jerry and Jim are very qualified and came from the President. Don does a good job and exhibits a lot of poker common sense. Larry, Jonathan and Rob are all good guys and always provided me with very good service.

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Originally Posted by patstap
Where did he imply comments were from an angle shooter? I certainly didn't make that inference when I originally read his post. I thought it was just a general description of how they ran the room and protected newcomers from angle shooters. Based on your reply, I get the idea you think he was making an obscure reference to you. Backstory?
I do not know who the poster IRL is, so I am at a lost. I was quoted, then he called the Lumiere dealers 'my dealers', claimed poster bias and then went on some long hot winded BS line about policing 'angle shooters'.

Where did that come from and why?

A case could be made that it may have been directed at me. Half of his post was about the subject of 'angle shooting' and if you were led to believe it a 'general description' of how the room was run...I don't get it. THAT is a top priority at Lumiere? His post exhibits the flawed mindset of some of the employees who dictate policies in that room.

In all honesty, Lumiere reminds me of Harrahs Saint Louis in it's hey day. The best house, the best dealers (making a big toke rate) and a lot of wise ass kids making some real money. They think they know poker, but they probably were living with thier mommy and daddy last summer or have been in Poker for just a few years. Lumiere is and will always be Peyton Place That is because too many employees are inexperienced, gossip too much and are not even qualified to be in the positions they are employed in.
It is an official Pinnacle Entertainment hiring policy...

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10-13-2009 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Searix
Hey all, quick Q, what should we take to get to Lumiere for us people east of the river with MLK being closed tomorrow (Oct 12-23). Metrolink go anywhere close?
Park in the Casino Queen lot for free, then take the Metro Link over the river to the first stop in St. Louis (Arch-Laclede's Landing).
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10-13-2009 , 06:24 PM
Sorry to change the subject for a minute, but I was wondering...what kind of salary does an average poker dealer in the STL market make? I will be attending poker training soon and I expect to perform at a subpar level for awhile as I'm learning the ropes. I also have seen some poor dealers around town and I know I can do as well as some of them immediately. I also know it will take a little time to become a good dealer...how much time?
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10-13-2009 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyclark
...there are a few Floor Staff that consistently ruined my gaming experience. I played Lumiere daily for 150 days. I do not play there anymore for whatever reason.

I do not know who the poster IRL is, so I am at a lost. I was quoted, then he called the Lumiere dealers 'my dealers', claimed poster bias and then went on some long hot winded BS line about policing 'angle shooters'.

Where did that come from and why?

A case could be made that it may have been directed at me. Half of his post was about the subject of 'angle shooting' and if you were led to believe it a 'general description' of how the room was run...I don't get it.
I've played with you in the past and never seen any angle shooting of any kind. Far from it. I had a blast playing with you at the table.

He was questioning the anti-floor sentiment from a few posters. I thought he was just quoting you because you were the most recent post that was critical of the floor prior to his post.

That's why I read it as a general statement and not a slam at you specifically.

The fact that you have a history with some "bad eggs" there explains why you might have thought the response was directed at you.

Gonna make an appearance at the Mini-MaGoo-Fest this weekend?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...t-17th-600522/

Hope to see you there (at least for the Harrah's leg). I'd like to have at least one 2+2er there who wouldn't be mistaken for my grandson.

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