The largest "no limit" game around Seattle (of which I am aware) which is spread daily is the 3-5 spread limit game at the Muckleshoot. $500 cap on the buy in, and it's not true no limit as any given bet is capped at $500. Thus on a given street, you can have a bet and 3 raises each of which can be up to $500. In practice, the $500 limit doesn't come into play that often in this game, but does occasionally.

This limit is (I think) set by law and not the preference of the casinos.

There is a weekly 5/10 game (where I'd guess the cap is a bigger factor) and sporadic 5/5 games as well, but you cannot count on them.

Have you not heard of Nelson Cruz?

No I haven't, why?

ban

Broke my self-imposed ban and played poker at the Tulalip this past Saturday. Many of the long-time regular dealers seem nervous about the future of poker there. They asked why I am AWOL. When told why - a general theme was that the dealers hear the same from others and will inform management.

Odd that with the information captured by Bravo, the Tulalip powers that be don't survey or ping regulars who disappear. Like me.

Tulalip is about 37 miles north of Seattle.

Muckleshoot is about 30 miles south of Seattle.

Two places are almost 70 miles apart, not to mention that Muck doesn't spread anything smaller than 3/5.

So unless those 1/3 players are all of sudden converting to spread limit or willing to put up with small spaces in Sno, I really don't think they have other options.

FWIW, future of poker in Tulalip had been questionable for a while now, long before removal of weekend promotions made by the new management.

Haven't posted in over a year (for shame!). Anyway a friend and I will be at Muckleshoot on Saturday for some 15/30 Omaha. If you have any suggestions about the room or just want to say hello, please let me know. Cheers!

maybe I missed it, but why were you gone?

What do you mean? Bravo tracks users?

Absolutely it does as used at Caesar's and MGM properties, Venetian, etc. where they swipe your card when you sit down at the table. Do they not do this at Tulalip?

Last year at the Venetian, some degen stole two stacks of $2 chips from my stack when I changed seats. I asked the floor to check surveillance, and surprisingly to me, they reported that they caught him on video. The great thing is, even though he'd bolted when I got curious, he'd already signed in with his Grazie affinity card. Even better, the next day, he signed back in to get that $2.50/hr comp for playing and they caught him. (We agreed he could give my 80 bucks back rather than me press charges.)

Some people really love their comps....

I understand taking the money in lieu of pressing charges, but I do hope that guy still got a permanent ban from the Venetian...

I am a weekend player. Don't like the fact the the Tulalip imposes a $2 PSJ per hand yet has no payout from Friday through Sunday except for the bad-beat. Bravo is the data source. It provides the Tulalip with hours played by player.

Dislike the PSJ. Dislike even more paying the PSJ 'rake' without the chance to recoup the rake.

Will be visiting Bellingham in the next couple months. Used to playing 1/2-100 spread in CO buying in for $400-500 (try to find tables where at least half the table is 300+ deep). Looking for something comparable. Will also play 8/16-10/20 limit if that is what is available. Thanks for any information.

From Bellingham Tulalip is your best option. 1/3 and 3/5 Washington state NLH (aka $500 max bet) the 1/3 plays pretty shallow because the max buy is only $200 so you'll probably prefer the 3/5 which afaik still runs regularly

What are the biggest limit hold em games that run in the Seattle area?

20/40 at Lil's. It's a regular game that runs daily.

Thanks. That's what I was hoping.

Do they rake the 20/40 or is it timed?

Rake + Player Supported Jackpot: $3 + $3 during promo times (12 noon to midnight), $2 midnight to noon. No flop no drop.

Matt Affleck currently playing the $1500 NL final table on the WSOP stream. Dinner break until 945pst

I used to be a regular at Tulalip playing their 3-5 Game. I understand that in a poker room that has a jackpot rake and comes up with promotions for their players are never going to satisfy all of the players - some players prefer high hand type promos while others prefer progressive bad beat type promos. That being said, the promotions that the management of the poker room there come up with are absolutely insane. There was an entire month where the only promotion running 24/7 was a $20 voucher for a meal at their restaurant if you lose a hand holding AA. You might think I am exaggerating and that there is no way they would make their players pay a jackpot rake out of every hand while their only promotion was worth $20 of food after LOSING a pot with pocket aces - there must be like a bad beat or something else going on - NO, absolutely nothing. I feel like that month (around a year ago) was the turning point for me and a lot of other NLH players in the area. I continued to play regularly for a few months after that, while I continued to raise my concerns and issues with the management of the poker room - it was clear they did not value the opinions of their own players. I do not want to place all the blame on the floor management of the poker room there because i don't know if they are being told by the upper management of the Tulalip casino how to operate. This must be the case, because anyone who understands the game of poker and what brings players in to play at their casino would not operate the poker room the way it is. After finally realizing things were never going to change and they will never listen to their own customers - I decided to stop playing there. They do not deserve my business on a regular basis. I still go to the room occasionally and play in their end of the month tournaments, but i went from playing 40 hrs. per week to an average of maybe 1-2 hours per week. The same problem exists today. There is still a full jackpot rake 24/7, and if you go to play 1-3 or 3-5 on a Thu/Fri/Sat night (obv. most convenient time for most to play) the EV of your return is close to $0 aka they will have some extremely low non-progressive bad beat or $500 for a royal flush type of bs promo. Its simple - no promo - no promo rake. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. I wish I could just run the room and bring the players back because the room is dying slowly because of this and it blows my mind how it is so obvious to everyone (including the dealers) yet nothing has changed. I have taken my regular business to Muckleshoot - a poker room that is FAR more professionally managed.

I feel so bad for all the dealers at Tulalip because they are all such great people who have been nothing but kind to me and all of the players who play there. They really are a wonderful staff that is unfortunately seeing much less hours and opportunity to make a living dealing there - and all through no fault of their own.

This rant is coming from one of many frustrated players at Tulalip. I hate to leave such a negative review like this on 2+2 but like I said, I have already tried in person, so I figured it is best to post on here as well in very slight hope that things will change for the Thu/Fri/Sat night player in the Seattle area.

Exactly.

For godsake, it's 2015. Can we at least learn to write on a basic level?

I'm going to be in Bellevue for a week. Where is the best place to go if I want to play low stakes NL a day or two?

Www.snocasino.com

You'll have to define what you mean by "low stakes NL". Non-tribal rooms in Washington operate under a $100 max betting cap. Tribal rooms, it's $500. So if you want a baby NL game with a bigger max bet, you're either going to want to go to Tulalip (1/2) or play the bigger games at Snoqualmie and Muckleshoot. If you can handle a smaller cap, you should probably check out the Hideaway for spread limit. For limit games up to 20/40, Diamond Lil's in Renton is by far your best choice.

But since you say you're going to be in Bellevue, you should just be aware that you're going to have to go away from the main suburban areas to get to the casinos -- there are no legal poker rooms in Bellevue or Seattle city limits (due to local ordinances).

As to Snoqualmie, I'd call ahead to see what's running before making the drive. Waits are long, and the poker room is small. They do run a 5/10 on Mondays, but other days not so sure what you can expect. And obviously that game plays way bigger than what you're looking for.

Anyway, best bets are Muckleshoot for bigger NL, Hideaway or Tulalip for 1/2 or smaller spread limit, Lil's for limit up to 20/40.

Good luck at the tables, and take time to enjoy the beautiful area while you're up there!

q/q