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09-25-2015 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by er7eman
Predatory selling is wrong, but it's a grey area when we start arbitrarily judging people's skills vs markup. Personally, I've bought a decent amount of action over the past few years, when I see someone selling high, I just don't buy. If I'm asked by that person why I didn't buy, I usually just tell them. As far as this specific case, I don't see enough with what Michael tweeted that would make it appropriate to blast him publicly. I try to stay away from publicly judging others intent in these matters. (Privately is a whole other ballgame)

My view, if your going to sell on a social network at a markup and choose not to state the rate in your post, you are being deceptive. I'm not saying you are shady, it just looks that way. It's your right to offer yourself in any way you choose, but when bad players sell pieces to non poker people at rates that aren't profitable, the poker community loses. Is that loss worth fighting for by public calling players out, I think not.

Ten years ago the standard poker deal was 50/50 or 40/60 with no makeup and slowly over the years the market has corrected. The people that are still investing at 1.3 in $425 re-entries aren't smart investors and will be weeded out in the long run. If you think you are worth 1.3, good for you, just don't come asking me for a stake.

And folks, if you talk about being around for years grinding and need to sell yourself by using catch phrases like "dm me if you want to get rich", your probably bad at poker. Most decent players that have grinded for years have multiple avenues to sell and don't need to isolate randoms to sell to. Selling yourself as some great opportunity is likened to being a snake oil salesman.

That being said, hmu if you guys want a piece of my HPT TV at 2.1mu. I'm really good, I've played for years, plus I believe in myself, my mom said I'm the best player she knows. I guarantee we probably win.
Some good points. It was the public blasting that upset me. If you really have a problem ask the guy for a conversation. Explain in person or over the phone. Would have been taken much better. But this is the public attention that was being looked for under the pretense of helping the poker community. Again. Perhaps some good intentions but not handled perfectly. It's ok. We all make mistakes. Maybe daily. Move on. We can all forgive and continue on.
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09-25-2015 , 12:48 AM
I'm glad people care enough to discuss this. That, or they enjoy the drama. Hopefully it's the former. I'm headed home after a session at the Matrix. I'll try to get this posted tonight while these ideas are fresh.
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09-25-2015 , 01:43 AM
Erle wins

Cept for the your/you're
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09-25-2015 , 01:54 AM
Just because we have a different value system doesn't mean j did this in selfishness
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09-25-2015 , 02:55 AM
Reserve 10% please
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09-25-2015 , 03:58 AM
where can i find 3/5 5/10 in the area? will be passing through in a couple weeks for work and am hoping to get in a session. Most likely a thur or fri night
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09-25-2015 , 04:42 AM
The games are good in Macau, I hear.
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09-25-2015 , 08:11 AM
What er7e does so marvelously in this forum and in real life for that matter when he's being serious (and I say this with 100% sincerity) is get his point across incredibly well even to those who aren't sure they agree without alienating the audience. That's an incredible skill that many smart people and great(or good or mediocre or people who should be selling at <1.3) poker players just don't possess.

Fwiw, which is very little, I agree that the vast majority of people overrate their MTT ability, underrate the variance involved, and don't realize their short term ROI is almost certainly unsustainable. For these reasons and more most people probably shouldn't be selling at markup at all in a perfect world and it would fantastic for the sustainable of the market if those who did sold at a price they were CERTAIN was reasonable.

Barber is correct that even if it's unknowingly occurring, selling at too high a markup definitely has an adverse effect on the poker economy. But everyone else is right.... witch hunting people you either don't know or barely know on social media when your methods are seldom well received isn't the best tact. It sends the other party reeling and typically makes them feel the need to defend them-self rather then discuss the issue at hand. It also leads them to associate the discussion about a possibly very important issue with the negativity they perceive has been thrown at them, potentially closing their mind to seeing the need for change or even discussion at all.
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09-25-2015 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGreenMile
What er7e does so marvelously in this forum and in real life for that matter when he's being serious (and I say this with 100% sincerity) is get his point across incredibly well even to those who aren't sure they agree without alienating the audience. That's an incredible skill that many smart people and great(or good or mediocre or people who should be selling at <1.3) poker players just don't possess.

Fwiw, which is very little, I agree that the vast majority of people overrate their MTT ability, underrate the variance involved, and don't realize their short term ROI is almost certainly unsustainable. For these reasons and more most people probably shouldn't be selling at markup at all in a perfect world and it would fantastic for the sustainable of the market if those who did sold at a price they were CERTAIN was reasonable.

Barber is correct that even if it's unknowingly occurring, selling at too high a markup definitely has an adverse effect on the poker economy. But everyone else is right.... witch hunting people you either don't know or barely know on social media when your methods are seldom well received isn't the best tact. It sends the other party reeling and typically makes them feel the need to defend them-self rather then discuss the issue at hand. It also leads them to associate the discussion about a possibly very important issue with the negativity they perceive has been thrown at them, potentially closing their mind to seeing the need for change or even discussion at all.
Yeah you and er7e did a good post.

Er7e did a real good one. Good job.
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09-25-2015 , 12:12 PM
Yeah, I never thanked Erle for his contribution. He doesn't get serious often, but when he does, it doesn't get much better.

Sorry I didn't handle it better from the beginning.
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09-28-2015 , 01:27 PM
[QUOTE=Mr Spyutastic;47641756]Hey All. I haven't been on the live poker scene in awhile, but just a PSA since I noticed this scum was local to the Sac area. No he didn't scam me, but I have proof of his exploits.

Interested to hear if anyone's seen this guy around playing somewhere recently.

Cedric Darrett is a scammer and a thief.
Do not loan, stake, give any money to this guy unless you are feeling charitable to a scumbag degen.

Defamation, Slander, Libel lawsuit coming fellas. *BE WARNED*

We have tracked down the the guy who posted this bogus information about Cedric. His name is Martin Gomez from Rocklin, CA. He is a little short mexican about 5' 6" bald, talks black. He also has 3 friends that will be named once served.

He has a severe napoleon complex. He attempts to play poker at Stones in Citrus Heights, Thunder Valley, Capitol Casino, Casino Royale, and the limelight. If you see him let him know that a very large P.I./Process Server is coming to pay him and 3 of his friends a visit. I will serve him with some very expensive docs. FYI you should never post pics of anyone and their business without a signed release/authorization.
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09-28-2015 , 01:28 PM
We have tracked down the the guy who posted this bogus information about Cedric. His name is Martin Gomez from Rocklin, CA. He is a little short mexican about 5' 6" bald, talks black. He also has 3 friends that will be named once served.

He has a severe napoleon complex. He attempts to play poker at Stones in Citrus Heights, Thunder Valley, Capitol Casino, Casino Royale, and the limelight. If you see him let him know that a very large P.I./Process Server is coming to pay him and 3 of his friends a visit. I will serve him with some very expensive docs. FYI you should never post pics of anyone and their business without a signed release/authorization.
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09-28-2015 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TruthseekerPI
We have tracked down the the guy who posted this bogus information about Cedric. His name is Martin Gomez from Rocklin, CA. He is a little short mexican about 5' 6" bald, talks black. He also has 3 friends that will be named once served.

He has a severe napoleon complex. He attempts to play poker at Stones in Citrus Heights, Thunder Valley, Capitol Casino, Casino Royale, and the limelight. If you see him let him know that a very large P.I./Process Server is coming to pay him and 3 of his friends a visit. I will serve him with some very expensive docs. FYI you should never post pics of anyone and their business without a signed release/authorization.
Yeah, the post doesn't make sense. Can we get a mod to ban this guy? Everyone knows the person that made the accusation has a perfect reputation, and no one knows "TruthSeeker".
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09-29-2015 , 10:32 AM
Interesting that Cedric chose to post here. At least it looks like he got scammed by his PI. That's some good detective work. You definitely got your moneys worth.

The key thing about a libel suit is that you have to prove the statements made are false. Good luck doing that as I have documented proof of your stealing.
And the pictures posted are public pictures anyone can find on google.
Instead of spending money on suing people you scammed. How about paying them back the money you stole. Just an idea.
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09-29-2015 , 11:45 AM
He's obviously bluffing.
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09-29-2015 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by er7eman
We don't listen to the opinion of a defector like you! PLO PLO PLO!!

Plo does work there was 2 tables 2 times a week at the CR! You just can't be a short stack nit who sucks at poker and running a 6 min mile

Bang bang bang !!!
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10-02-2015 , 12:46 PM
On my way to Stones to sell my main event ticket. Anyone interested?
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10-02-2015 , 10:13 PM
Yes check your pms
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10-06-2015 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by muzicman14
On my way to Stones to sell my main event ticket. Anyone interested?
Maybe I'm a donk for selling 40% of my action at 0% APR, zip, zero, no markup when I knew I was going to win and told everyone I was going to win, (chopping counts as a win I guess) and paid out $4876, $2438, and $2438 to 3 investors who invested $110, $55, and $55. I could have easily afforded to play myself, but I figure it could pay dividends down the road to get some people interested in buying pieces in some of the bigger events I would like to play. Plus, it's nice to have a solid rail pulling for you.
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10-06-2015 , 11:18 AM
I bought half your action right? I take cash or check.
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10-06-2015 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SonOfDonk
Maybe I'm a donk for selling 40% of my action at 0% APR, zip, zero, no markup when I knew I was going to win and told everyone I was going to win, (chopping counts as a win I guess) and paid out $4876, $2438, and $2438 to 3 investors who invested $110, $55, and $55. I could have easily afforded to play myself, but I figure it could pay dividends down the road to get some people interested in buying pieces in some of the bigger events I would like to play. Plus, it's nice to have a solid rail pulling for you.
Congrats. I'm out of the loop with events going on so PM me next time you're going to play a local event if you're looking to sell again. I don't play much anymore, but would like to play by proxy.
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10-06-2015 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyLikeABird
I bought half your action right? I take cash or check.
Will you accept Venmo?

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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Congrats. I'm out of the loop with events going on so PM me next time you're going to play a local event if you're looking to sell again. I don't play much anymore, but would like to play by proxy.
Thanks! Was first tournament I've played since LV where I airballed a bunch and I can say with confidence that I'm playing much better than I did in LV or at any point before. And that's not just because of the 24.4k score, I actually was on top of my game, all misclick raises aside, whether it was throwing in two blacks thinking I was calling 200 more but raising 2000 more with Q4dd and doubling up level 1 or putting in half or more and being declared a minraise, or raising too much, (was ridiculous as I typically don't even make misclicks and being tired was part of it) I actually won some very key big pots with misclicks.

Also, I got backed off playing blackjack at Gold Coast and I was down 1.8k at the time. I'm definitely interested in selling for LV this summer, and I'm thinking I'll do a 3 month trip again. I may try to play some on Winter Break. Will let you know!
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10-06-2015 , 09:28 PM
Correction: I'll probably do a 2 month trip again for entire WSOP duration.

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Originally Posted by Ynot86
Could someone explain to me why you go to anywhere but Thunder Valley?
Stones for several reasons. You can match the biggest stack in the 1-3 game. I no longer play games with a max buy-in of 300 or lower. 2-5 runs often enough. Straddles. Straddles. Straddles. You can straddle up to half your stack and I've been in a pot with $300 straddle once. More action. Non smoking. Closer drive. Good food, good atmosphere, and the room is well run. Then there are some non poker reasons like lower minimum bets on the table games, banking table games, and prop bets.

Last edited by SonOfDonk; 10-06-2015 at 09:56 PM.
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10-07-2015 , 01:28 PM
This is complete nonsense.
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