http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...7nN/story.html

Wynn in Everett, and the Milford site are both still possibilities to submit applications before the Tuesday deadline. Surprised about Milford, haven't heard anything about that one in a year.

I grew up in Milford, no way the townies let it fly.

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Anybody near North Attleboro? I see online that a 6000 sq ft dealers school opened this past summer in the Emerald Square Mall??? Has anyone seen it? Are students attending it? How's business there?

I've daydreamed of opening such a school if Rockingham or Suffolk ever get up and running, and figured about six months before opening day would be the time to do it--Twin River opens their table games July 1.

But Mama Mia, 6000 sq ft??? My word. I wasn't thinking I'd need 1/4th that much space, and the Rock/Suffolk projects are going to be a lot bigger than TR's 64 tables.

I've heard and seen their website, have a friend who stopped by there to check it out but didn't follow up with him on what he saw.

It's been open for almost a year if I'm not wrong, the people that opened it are few peeps who were full floors at Foxwoods and such.

I've dreamt of opening up one in RI once their Gaming Comission figures out what they're doing. But seems like Twin River will be training people themselves, they did state that they want to hire people with experience and people with no experience also at about a 50/50 ratio during their job fair

I was just at that mall on Saturday. Looks nice. It wasn't open on a Saturday but the tables looked nice. I saw poker and table (card) games. Didn't see any craps or roulette but I didn't look long. Just walked by.

They're probably not open weekends, but they actually should for the working public who's looking to change careers and still have to work full time at current jobs.

I remember when I went to school, classes were Monday thru Thursday and Friday was make up day for any missed hours.

But that's the whole reason I WANT to open a school--nights and weekends off!

Was just over my old mans house in Salem,NH and he had a mailer sitting on the counter from Rockingham Park showing a sketch of the proposed casino and notifiying residents that Millennium Gaming is holding a Q+A session on Feb 7th at Rockingham. Should have stole it to scan for you guys but the sketch didn't make the building look any bigger than it already is. Didn't show a hotel either.

There is legislation pending in New Hampshire to finally allow its charity card rooms to deal NL cash games (with a $150 max buy-in). The bills are HB 459 (house bill 459) and SB 61. You can check on the status of the bills through this website: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/

There will be a House committee meeting on HB 459 tomorrow and I will be there to speak in favor. Anyone else in the Concord, NH area who can should attend (its in the Legislative Office Building behind the state house, room 202 at 10:00 AM).

Folks can also use the link above to send emails to state legislators telling them you support these bills.

The casino bill has also finally been filed, it is HB 665. There is also a bill to give certain places (like the racetracks) slot machines, it is HB 678.

Skallagrim

If I have read Section 287-D:2-b correctly they could also offer a single table of $250 buy-in so long as they also didn't run a $250 tournament:

287-D:2-b Operation of Games of Chance.
XI. For games of chance where chips have no monetary face value, the charitable organization may offer any number of games per licensed event in which each player may spend up to $150 per game including buy-ins and re-buys.
XII. Notwithstanding paragraph XI, the charitable organization may offer one game per licensed event in which each player may spend up to $250 for the game including buy-ins and re-buys.

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/.../287-d-mrg.htm

ship the NL games.......any clue how long that will take to get thru Skall?

I'm pretty sure this means tournament chips, as cash games chips have monetary value. As far as I can tell the rules are no different - $4 max bet on cash games, and $150 max buy-in for tournaments (with the occasional $250 allowed).

Also interesting that the Senate's version of the bill does not include the text allowing rooms to charge hourly vs taking rake nor the provision that would legalize home games in private residences.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...13/SB0061.html

House bill:
(bolding theirs)

Senate bill:
(again, bolding theirs)

They already have $250 buy in tournies don't they?

Might be possible to beat the rake if they allow these $150 buy in NL games.

Ughhhhhhhh just read Jan 1st, 2014 would be the effective date(sen. bill). WTF, the real casino will most likely pass by then. House bill would be effective 60 days after passage. That's the one we want to ship thru imo.

The House version of the bill defers to RSA 287-D:2-b, XI (which includes the no monetary value line) but is very clearly talking about cash games, the Senate version of the bill explicitly states $150 max buy-in.

Earlier postings in this thread seemed to suggest that even if they built a real casino in Salem the poker room would still be built around charity gaming.

Also legalizes home games in private residences, Senate bill does not - definitely prefer the House bill.

Yeah I don't see that happening. There may still be charity poker rooms in parts of the state but I doubt Millennium Gaming would buy Rockingham Park and take control of all gaming except poker. All table games are for charity right now so why would they change over bj, roulette, craps, blah blah blah, and not poker?

Off to do a google search of their other casinos to see if they have poker rooms.

My estimation of the situation is that they are simply paying lip-service to get a casino passed, I don't expect them to keep it charitable longer than they have to.

Millennium Gaming's properties
Eastside Cannery Casino and Hotel (Las Vegas): Poker
Cannery Casino and Hotel (North Las Vegas): Poker
The Meadows (North Strabane Township, Pennsylvania): Poker
Rampart Casino [managed] (Las Vegas): No poker

I dunno, this thread is the only place I've read any mention of that and I've been following the Rockingham Park and Suffolk Downs race for a long time.

Seems Millennium Gaming owns The Cannery in NV and Meadows in PA. Both of which have poker rooms.

I see shovels starting to hitting the ground soon at Rockingham. Before MA even issues its slot license.

That's what bothers me. While yes it seems obvious it's referring to cash games, the portion it defers to is about tournaments. I would prefer there be no ambiguity.

The house hearing went very well, at least on the subject of "table stakes" games; none of the committee members seemed hostile, some were downright friendly, and most appreciated hearing exactly how it would work. There was some concern about allowing professional dealers in private games, so I am less optimistic about that provision.

Its interesting that the exact amount of the buy in was also a little confusing at the hearing. Ultimately it was understood that the way the statutes are specifically cross referenced would mean a table stakes game would have a max buy in of $150, just like the Senate bill.

The Senate hearing on 2/5 was not as friendly. And while there were no outright objections to the content of the bill, it seemed the senators on the committee all had other agendas. My guess is that the majority of those agendas had to do with the casino proposal.

And the casino at Rockingham is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room. if such a casino is approved, charity gaming in NH will suffer. It would probably kill the southern rooms completely.

But passing casino legislation in NH is a long way from done and there are lots of folks opposing the plan.

Among the opposition are all the charity rooms that will not be turned into casinos. Same with the other racetracks, including car racing tracks. Indeed a lot of NH attractions are asking why Rockingham can have slots by they cannot. I personally think the casino bill will not pass because of this infighting and the fact that once MA does build its casinos, a casino at Rockingham park will be hard pressed to compete.

But that is just speculation. And at this point I am just concerned with being able to play a nice game of 1-2NL in a local room. We are well on our way to that, I think.

But we will probably have to wait until the whole casino thing is decided for these bills to get full attention and hopefully pass. That most likely means a vote sometime in late spring.

If you are a PPA member from NH you will soon be getting emails regarding the bills and what you can do to help. I will try and keep the rest of you informed through this forum (though you should join the PPA, you know ... it really does help).

Skallagrim

Casino bill (SB 0152): http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...13/SB0152.html

Apparently there is a meeting on this in Salem tonight, @annmarietimmins is live tweeting some highlights including:
Casino developer says revived Rock Park would host charitable games. Also says his site in Pennsylvania boosts local biz there. #nhpolitics

So the $7 or $8 rake is here to stay. Great.