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View Poll Results: Which casino operator would you prefer to get E. Mass. license?
Wynn/Everett? 28 59.57%
Mohegan/Revere? 19 40.43%
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:13 AM   #121
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...Remember, the provision which grants an exclusive negotiating period for an indian tribe is ONLY valid for the southeastern zone, where the Wampanoags would have probably eventually landed a casino anyway. The Mohegans are approaching the Western zone as a corporate entity and have no exclusive or tribal rights. ....
I believe that this is correct as far as casino bill and exclusivity go, but, as you imply above (and AFAIK), any federally-certified Indian tribe can still open a casino on their own land (after getting it declared a reservation), in states which have casinos. (I think this was the original reason for the Southeastern zone Indian exclusivity in the law; it was clearly aimed at giving the Wampanoags a clear shot, also at getting them to ditch Middleboro and move to someplace more politically desirable) (Fall River). So I believe that if the Mohegans' bid in Palmer fails to win, they can still try to open another casino there in addition to the winner, after negotiating with the state. So if the state really wants to limit the number to three, this would seem to give the Mohegans an advantage in the Western zone.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:26 AM   #122
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While I am not sure what the regulation are when it comes to tribal land, I find it hard to believe that the Mohegans would be able to get land in MA in addition to their land in CT.

Also, I am not sure how the legislation works, would the casino bill give the state total control over gaming, making it impossible for a tribe to circumvent the state?
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:29 AM   #123
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Indian tribes have to obtain land in their original tribal lands, which is just about anywhere cause they were far and wide, to be able to put it into trust with the federal government. Any additional lands must be connected to this land to be able to be put into trust. Casinos can only be built on trust land. So Mohegan has to go through the precess like all the other companys.

Interesting to me, is if they fail to negotiate a compact and open up the area under exclusivity to the Wampanoags, to a company other then the tribe, you could have four full casinos. They can't stop the Wampanoags from opening up, even if they fill the three licenses without them. The Tribe can open any type of gambling allowed by the state, and the federal government will step in and make Mass negotiate a compact.
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Old 01-05-2012, 05:37 AM   #124
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That what I had assumed thanks!
Anyway, if three resorts were to be opened up throughout the state. Would the Wamponoags even bother to open yet another one? Wherever they put it, there going to be blocked out by the other five NE casinos. How eager would their Asian financiers be at that point to get involved?
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:22 AM   #125
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Re: New England General Discussion

Good thread. All this casino talk seems to be heading in a great direction. Like everyone else here, I'm definitely looking forward to no longer having to drive to CT just to find a halfway decent live legal poker game.

Lets hope there's a Caesars/Harrahs property at Suffolk Downs and/or a Wynn Resort in Foxboro soon! Both of those companies are very poker friendly. We can count on them not neglecting to include a large room in whatever they may build.

Earlier someone brought up the issue of traffic getting to Suffolk in Eastie. Well, the kicker for me is that I (like most greater Boston residents) could take the T to East Boston! It's right on the Blue Line and is so easy to get to not just from Logan but really anywhere in the city or even anywhere on a commuter rail line. Forget driving to the casino, millions of residents will be able to just take a 10 - 50 minute trip on public transit! Also I believe that if/when the time comes to vote, residents will step up in favor of the East Boston location.

I also think that once either of these proposed Boston area resorts is operational, Mohegan and Foxwoods will be toast.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:33 PM   #126
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Re: New England General Discussion

Just saw a byline on NECN; MGM looking to bid a casino in Western MA. That makes four known players for that area.
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:13 PM   #127
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Thats correct. It's proposed for a site in Brimfield, which is directly on the Mass Pike and closer to Worcester than Springfield. The problem this site has is that there is no existing exit and the plan kind of hinges on a dedicated exit being built just for the casino. In MA, that's a tall task, but with the size of this project i'm sure it can get done.
Apparently the details of the proposal are to be released tomorrow. I'm not sure what details, whether vague like the Ameristar idea or more detailed like the Mohegan idea.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...l_details.html
and an update on the Springfield (Ameristar) and Holyoke (Hard Rock) plans: http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...tml#incart_mrt
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:16 PM   #128
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So they released some details today. MGM seems pretty serious, the CEO was in town for the proposal.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...nos/index.html
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Old 01-16-2012, 02:19 PM   #129
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If i'm not mistaken, Foxwoods and Mohegan do not have to pay taxes on poker tables, only slots correct? MA legislation appears to have a 25% tax on all gaming revenues, which could lead to a lesser focus on poker since it will be even less profitable.
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Old 01-19-2012, 01:04 AM   #130
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I check the front pages of the Globe and Herald websites every day (and the Eagle Tribune, my hometown paper), I'm just asking you guys to keep an ear out for any news that flies under that radar (like the Ameristar meeting mentioned above).
Looks like the Globe heard my plea, they have a page dedicated to their casino coverage.

http://www.boston.com/news/specials/...?p1=News_links

Holy crap, Holyoke elected a 22-year-old mayor?????
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:01 PM   #131
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Yup....and he won basically because he was the candidate who opposed casinos. He was in college when he started his campaign.
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:15 PM   #132
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Anyone playing the EPT thing over in natick this Saturday.

$150 tourney. Not playing that but they are gonna have 1/2 cash and figure it could be an easy game
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Old 01-20-2012, 06:54 PM   #133
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If i'm not mistaken, Foxwoods and Mohegan do not have to pay taxes on poker tables, only slots correct? MA legislation appears to have a 25% tax on all gaming revenues, which could lead to a lesser focus on poker since it will be even less profitable.
that cant be right.......??? can it ?
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:00 PM   #134
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Anyone playing the EPT thing over in natick this Saturday.

$150 tourney. Not playing that but they are gonna have 1/2 cash and figure it could be an easy game
the rake on the game is 10% up to $5 max. How does that compare to FW and/or MS ??
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:49 PM   #135
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Not bad FW has $4max....

How are the cash games at the EPT? Loose? Tight?
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