Since they have only been spreading PLO at the Rock for 7 days now, there are no guarantees, but I hope to get back up there Saturday or Sunday and would target like 2:00. from what I can tell, if they get a table started short handed, people will sit down, and the table should go all night, or late into the night.

Exactly what time to target would be a guess, but 2:00 on a weekend sounds appropriate. Like Foxwoods, it's frequently a guess when they will start a PLO game, but the staff seems like they do want to get PLO going once they have the players. Whereas at Foxwoods, starting a PLO table is not always a priority.

I have another friend planning on going up to play PLO on Saturday also.

For the person asking about tournaments: from what I understand, the bigger tournaments will still be played, but the smaller ones may not.

I don't know where you live, but if it's within 2 hours of Foxwoods (milford qualifies), just go there.

If you go into the Regional Commnities, and skim the last 10 pages of the new England forum, you'll find a couple of trip reports from the Milford room.

The place sucks. The rake sucks. The dealers suck. The food sucks.

On the good side, the players suck. But if you're card dead, you're going to have a bad session. There is no way to "outplay" these folks. They just call all the way down, so you're only going to make money when you have good hands.

Also, it's a poor town. Most of the clientele doesn't have much disposable income. No one there was ever aching to "play bigger". I remember a time when the place would have 50-75 players in it and it was IMPOSSIBLE to get a $100 sit n go going. I've only been there a few times since the NL games opened up and I've already heard multiple folks groaning about how they "lose money too fast" in the new games. So don't expect to be playing very deep very often. Most stacks average 80-130BB's

I haven't been to Rockingham yet, but I would say if you're looking for fishy action, go there. If you're looking to play poker, play well, get better, AND make money, then go to foxwoods. The rake is lower, the player points you earn will offset the cost of gas (you can buy gas with points), and you'll have a better time in a room run by competent people and not a bunch of idiot kids. Also, foxwoods doesn't close, ever. Hotels are expensive, but if you're savvy, you can make it work.

oh by the way, most of those idiot kids who work in Milford are decent poker players, and they're allowed to play when their shift is over, all they have to do is change their shirt. It's pretty slimy.

Not only was it up and running by 3pm this past Sunday, but the PLO table was roughly the 8th table opened overall. That's significant since, to Bugsyyy's point, it showed the room will forego opening a new NL table if there is indeed interest for PLO, with emphasis on the word interest, since the key seemed to be getting names on the list and having those who were on the list actually show up at the table once it was called.

What is slimy about allowing poker dealers to play poker? It's OK for bankers and firemen and cobblers to play poker, but poker dealers should not be allowed because...why?

(Also, if you find Foxwoods staff to be competent, I would suggest that your perspective has been skewed by playing in NH.)

Anyone know how many entries this 250 MEGA usually gets at Rockingham tomorrow? Looks good but no clue

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Are you being serious? Is this a troll?

I think you've been around poker long enough to know that it's common practice for casinos and similar operations to ban their employees from playing in their own games.

Salem, Keene, and Manchester are all less than an hour away. Seabrook is only a tad further. Poker dealers can play poker, I'm not denying that. Just go somewhere else.

Go read my trip reports in the regional forum for some details on the HORRIBLE crap I've seen in just two visits in milford. I've played enough at foxwoods to have plenty of complaints, and they make plenty of mistakes, but there is at least a moticum of professionalism.

If a player (who is also dealer, off duty) busted and the current dealer reached into his pocket and loaned the guy $200 to rebuy, I'm pretty sure neither of them would be employed at Foxwoods the next day. But that's just the tip of the iceberg at Milford.

Ty Busgy & Rizz. Good info. I still can barely believe there's PLO that close to me. They'll def know there's interest.

Last time I played PLO at Foxwoods some weird **** went down. I was playing 1/2NL waiting to be called for 2/5 PLO. So after a while I get called and haul ass over with my chips from the 1/2 game. I'd won at 1/2 and didn't realize I was putting more than $500 in the table, but I found out soon enough.

First hand, there's 3 of us in it. Flop is k-4-5 w a couple diamonds. I had a set of kings and bet out, get called, then Aggro guy raises. I call.

Board pairs w a diamond. I've got me a boat! (I had KK). So I check. He bets $200 and I call. River comes and I jam all in.

Now heres the problem. He counts up all the bets I've made and this is my first hand at the table, and announces that I sat down w $518 and the max I can sit down w is $500. True.

Then he says because of this bad info he would've bet differently and wants the entire hand tossed out and his money back. Seriously. He was yelling at me, yelling at the dealer. I offered to take back the $18 but that freaked him out too.

Mind you it's his turn to act. I've jammed all in and he hasn't made his move. He refused to.

Pit Boss comes over, here's the story and said the $18 wasn't a factor and told me to take it off the table.

The guy is telling that this is bull ****, cheating.....and then he told the pit boss that I sat down with LESS than $500 but pulled chips out of my pocket on the sly once I saw my hand.

Can you believe that shiat?

Luckily all the guys at the table loudly disagreed w him.

After that, the pit boss said he had 30 seconds to call or fold or his cards would be folded. Tick, tick. He refused to do either and just yelled that he was reporting them to the gaming commission.

And then....we played together for a couple of hours.

Dealers at Hampton Falls can also play poker there (but not the pit games), even though Seabrook is only 10 minutes away.

yeah that chit happens lol.

Was going to write a trip report about plo Thursday at the Rock, but it pretty much mirrored Bugsy's experience Wednesday so I will just add some observations.

First Bugsy if you are driving on 93 with no traffic going 70, you better not be in the left lane or you're slowing everyone down.

Last week when I left I mentioned one thing to speed up the game and make it a red chip game that they should go to $5 straddle. Not only did they make a plo straddle $5, but 1-2 nl as well and straddle in the 2-4 is now 10.

The floor expressed pleasure that plo has been running and they would like to be the place to go for plo. One floor told me he sat in the box one night to deal plo and get a feel for how it plays, and so when/if he got called over for a ruling at some point he'd feel confident making the right call. That's a great attitude for anyone to have. One thing about the Rock, I know most the floor, some even taught me, I have confidence if they get called to make a ruling, they will get it correct. I can't say the same at Foxwoods, where a lot of the floor are good, and I think others are scared to make a ruling.

The dealers are still in a tight rotation, but I've seen some other dealers come over to watch the action, get comfortable with the game so that the dealing pool can expand some.
(I get the feeling from some if they were there and not working, they'd be playing plo).

There is no reason with the players just on here that have interest in playing plo (even some said they'd like plo8, which i'm sure they could get a list going), the house's interest in spreading and promoting the game, and very capable dealers, that the future is bright at the Rock for the game of the future.

I have some thoughts on the tip rate being up, but I'll save that for a later date.

I think my next trip up for plo will be Sunday afternoon. I'll try to bring my Russian buddy, add Bugggsy to the mix and we got a game.

GOTF: Game on! Russian friends too, huh. Oh Boy!

I could tell that red chip straddle had your smell on it! Such an important move to get it right from the start.! Well Done!

I believe I said (or at least should have) 70+mph. there were a few bottlenecks where I had to slow to 70, not that I am complaining.

Josie, there are D!ckheads everywhere. and the floor should not be making adjustments during a hand. Any stack adjustments should be made before a hand. I once had an opponent at Foxwoods claim that my cash (all benjies) on the table shouldn't play after I called his jam and after I showed down the winning hand, claiming he would not have bet if he knew I had that much behind. Let the floor sort it, and they will come up with the right ruling, or they should be enough support on the table if the floor doesn't get the facts correct.

PLO players are a smaller limited group, and most get to know each other, and it tends to become a friendlier game than some other types. People who have played enough accept things like suckouts as part of the game, and don't make suck a big fuss.

Actually, I've been around poker long enough to know that the opposite of that is true. I've dealt in Las Vegas, Tunica, NH, and Minnesota, and even a WPT event in Florida (and I've played in Reno and Biloxi). In ALL of these places, the dealers are welcome to play in the rooms that employ them. In fact, you're more likely to get the job if the boss knows you like to play as well, since you are a more valuable employee if you will take yourself out of the lineup when it's slow AND HELP START ANOTHER GAME.

Of course it's unprofressional for a dealer to reach into his pocket while in the box--that's NH for you. I wish we lived in a world where busted players didn't ask their friends for loans to get back in the game, but I assure you this is not a thing that only happens between dealers, and I can't imagine that you would think this was the case.

AFAIK, dealers at Foxwoods & Mohegan can't play in their own rooms.

Correct

Can you get to Rockingham from Boston by train? What's the rake like?

Train, not that I know of.
http://www.mbta.com/schedules_and_maps/rail/

Rake, i believe is 10% capped at $6, plus $1 per hand for bad beat Jackpots.

There's a bus that stops at exit 2. Can I walk from there? What is there for food?

I'm thinking about going there on a Saturday and playing the $80 mega turbo, some cash, and maybe an SNG.

Would be a bit of a walk. Prob 30 min or so..

I heard some or many of the smaller tourneys aren't running anymore since they started playing NL/PL cash games. I haven't been playing that close attention. Maybe someone else can comment.

That is true. Sit and Go's are not running from what I have seen. The $250 Mega today only had 39 people. However, they had 22 cash tables going when I was there from 7-930 tonight.

Can anyone comment on the amount of games/quality at seabrook vs rockingham.

I've visited the rock a couple times now and it has been very busy every time. Wondering if seabrook is worth checking out

GL guys.
Let us know how it goes. I still have free rooms at FW, but daytrips to NH could make sense.

A couple of things I forget to add

You no longer have to post as a new player.

There was talk of getting the cap in plo raised to $600 (still in $150 increments)

Heading up now for some plo fun (oxymoron)

The rock need a formal line to sign up for games on the board . I might stab the next ten that cuts in front of me.

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