There are hundreds of tickets available for the Saturday Sox game on Stubhub. The cheapest are $68. Just didn't know if that was normal or not. The MLB Orioles site directs me to Stubhub so I didn't know if that was the default vendor (as opposed to Ticketmaster or something). I'm trying to get them before Xmas.

They might be from people that have already deposited for 2014 season packages.

I'm not sure to be honest though. They usually sell single game tickets through the team site and ticketmaster once they start selling single game tickets though.

That much even for a weekend prime game is kinda high. Have you looked on Craigs List?

Good news. A review by two independent consultants have found the Harbor location the most attractive. It is good that their assessments concur. Also of note, Penn-Rosecroft was the least favorable.

Final selection expected December 20th. Of course Penn and Parx are protesting the conclusions....so all parties get a chance to question and/or clarify before the final decision is made. But all things continue to point in the right direction......

Sun Article:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business...,7552864.story

Post Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...0e1_story.html

That is great news! Thanks for providing the links as well. Very excited to play there someday.

Can't WAIT for the lawsuits to start rolling in. :what:

What's the general consensus on the impact that the Inner and National Harbor's opening will have on Live's business? It seems incredible how busy Live is everyday, I'm wonering if it will continue? My family is giving serious thought to moving to MD (poker is only part of the story), but I wouldn't want to live near Live to have it be empty in a couple years....

Just my opinion, but there's no way on this green Earth that Live will ever not be at least somewhat busy . It's between two cities and right next to a huge mall. Horseshoe won't do anything but help make it a little more manageable to get a seat, I believe. MGM or whatever shows up in National Harbor will be more for tourists to the DC area. Again, JMO.

Here is my prediction from earlier in this thread:

There's actual DATA out there, but it's sort of hard to know where to post information that addresses this very question. The Maryland thread? The MD Live thread? Who KNOWS???

Anyway, Baltimore Business Journal recently reported on a study that suggests a 23% drop in MDL revenue once Harrah's opens. I guess this means that you'll have to wait 45 minutes instead of an hour on Friday and Saturday nights?

http://www.mdnewsfeed.com/baltimore/...timore-casino/

Well you can post virtually anything in here, so when in doubt just do so here.

mgm won the bid for the last casino license in md.
national harbor to open 2016

parx's site was only a couple of exits past mgm's site.
that small distance cost parx their bid??

Their bid was predicated on a lot of improvements to Indian Head Highway to absorb the traffic. I believe the commission decided that these improvements could not be guaranteed to happen due to a number of permit, license, approval hoops that would still have to be jumped through. The uncertainty was a concern, even if it was just a little south of the Harbor location.

I also think that the Parx location was not metro-accessible whereas National Harbor is (via bus at least).

ahh.. thx

hm.. wonder if Penn National Gaming (Hollywood casino, wv) was even in serious contention?

Someone (maybe hunt4sky) made a good post earlier in this thread detailing Penn National's juicy offer to the state involving a big contribution to the state education fund, among other things. But I personally couldn't imagine anyone taking them seriously after they sued to block the legalization of gaming in MD.

Ted Forest sighting at MDL.....

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MD Live will never be the place for cheap tournaments. I seriously doubt they'll ever expand the room either. Once National Harbor and Baltimore are open, they'll basically only be getting Howard County residents as their customer base. Howard County residents are among the richest in the country, so the tournaments will remain expensive and geared toward inducing as many re-entries as possible in a given time-frame.

I think ultimately Baltimore will become the home of the best tournaments in terms of price and structure.

the baltimore room is going to be smaller(25 to 30 tables) and the national harbor casino is going to be geared primarily to tourists. i think what you'll see is a lot of 1/2 and 2/5 NL and lower buy-in tourneys at those rooms with MD live! keeping all of the other games and higher stakes and occasionally having higher buy-in tournaments.

They're good.

Are you going to fear the Borgata or make them fear Maryland Live!?

One of the things that makes poker at Maryland Live so successful is that it's located in one of the wealthiest areas in the country (i.e. lots of disposable income), which means they can run higher dollar tournaments with a bigger fee and still run the room nearly at capacity.

Personally, I'd love a bunch of $50+5 dailies, but that's just not realistic in the current environment. I don't think Maryland Live would be doing itself any favors by lowering buy-ins or lengthening structures. When the shoe opens in Baltimore and even more so MGM in National Harbor, they're going to lose a substantial amount of poker business. There's nothing they can do about that, and I don't think making low buy-in, slow structure tourney players happy now is really going to make a significant difference in their long-term profitability. If there continues to be demand for those types of tournaments as traffic in the room decreases, I'm sure Mike will adjust accordingly.

Assuming MGM puts in even a half-way decent poker room, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that a good portion of the high stakes games move to National Harbor. It's an area for rich tourists and professional conference attendees, and The folks playing the big NL and PLO games are going to want to get a piece of that money. Even if only 1 in 200 tourists who visit the poker room actually play the higher stake games, it would be worth it for those guys to move the game there. Not to mention that playing there would likely get you comped rooms in Vegas.

With the WSOP connection, I'm guessing the shoe gets some decent tournament series, and I wouldn't be surprised if they pick up some of the lower buy-in tournies. I'm not sure they get as much of the DC and NoVA traffic and money, so I'm betting there ends up being fewer big games and tournaments there. I live in DC pretty close to 295, and it takes me a solid 35 minutes to get to ML if there's no traffic... which is usually only when I go during a weekday or come home in the middle of the night. It would take a lot for me drive further and fight through a second city's traffic to play when I have a closer option with lots of action.

Really guys!!!! Borgata has it's Opens 4 times a year and I will guarantee you that every time they have a 2 million guarantee for only a $560 buy in, that every room on the east coast will have poor turn outs for the tourny that day. Had nothing to do with new structure.

While I think there may be some truth here, I am somewhat skeptical. I just don't see tourists sitting down to 5-10 or 10-25 NL or 5-5 or 10-10 PLO all that much. You do reference this, but I think even 1 in 200 is a reach. Moreso, where are you likely to get the looser guys looking to drop in and dump cash... near where they are working or visiting, or right next to the airport while they are waiting for their flight?

I foresee Balto being the low stakes tourney spot, MDL being the center of high stakes ring games, and National Harbor being mid stake ring games, but luring folks in with some high stakes tourneys.

Maryland has more millionaires than any other state. Most of them, I'll wager, reside in and around DC.

I think MD Live will still do very well with the poker room - and I think when the Harbors both open up (both tourist stops), the poker room will be more important to the casino because the gambool tourists are gonna play slots/table games at whatever's closest to the other tourist attractions but the poker players are gonna look for great rooms to play in and MD Live has one!

That said - if the tourists go to Baltimore Harbor to gambool then ... fishing there might just be pretty good anyway...