Originally Posted by Jamie Platinum

I think I was playing with you yesterday. /QUOTE]

I was there. I remember the A7 v KK hand and that the trip 6s knocked you out of the tourny.

The whale blew through 4 buyins then the game slowed down when he left.

I live very close to BB and should play there more often. I was suprised it was so busy last night.

Originally Posted by Jamie Platinum

I think I was playing with you yesterday. Were you at the table with the blue and yellow chips? Where the whale was opening $7 every single hand? I was lucky enough to sit to this guys direct left and in the hour or so I was playing my PF3bet% was ~40%. Ended up winning a buy-in and would have stayed all night if I hadn't already promised my friend that I'd go to MGM with him (which was incredibly nitty and anti-climatic, although I did get a nice 200bb gift from a guy with 10 high against my set).

The best part of the whale is that he would bet 3x+ the pot on every flop and either shove the turn with any pair or draw or shut down with nothing. He opened to 7, I three bet to 30 with kings, he called and we were heads up to a flop of A710 rainbow and he bets $150 and when I folded showed A7.

All in all, my first time playing cash there and I think I'll play again.


Also, are people laying down this hand in a charity tournament? Big Beaver, $30, 20,125 starting stack and this hand happens one orbit in. I have 22 in the BB, limps to CO who raises to 250, I call and so do 5 others. I have no real reads on anyone at this point because we haven't got to show down and this is the first pot that had 4+ players. Flop comes A62 rainbow, checks to initial raiser who bets 1,200. I raise to 3,500 and out of nowhere get a cold call from a younger guy in mid position who seems competent in the first 10 hands. Then the guy to his left cold calls too and the initial bettor folds. Turn comes a 6 which I think is the worst card in the deck because WTF can one let alone two call with that didn't fill up. I'm assuming they're raising all of their big aces pre flop and to C/C my C/R seems like their range has to consist of AQ, AK (which I still don't think they'd play those hands this way), A2, A6, 66. So I check the turn and they both check as well. River is a blank and I bet out 5k and the first flatter ships 17k more. Any hand that I beat would flat the river so is this a fold or is this a **** it it's a $30 tournament?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Turdzilla

I was the old guy in the Michigan sweatshirt, seat 5?

Originally Posted by Jamie Platinum

Gotcha, nice to have met you. That's funny about the player to your right, I don't think he played a hand at all. One of the more entertaining tables I played at. I think it was you, but were you the one that asked about the beer I was drinking? If so, did you try out the Blue Moon? If not, disregard

Originally Posted by Dharzhak

So explain to me why you all can't just show up at Cada's where we don't have these problems?

Originally Posted by AKQJ10

Now that I think of it, why not Motor City?

Pros: centrally located, lots of walk-in traffic, decent dealers for Detroit, rxr or PLOH players might get curious and play, free food (but no comps)

Cons: not used to split-pot (but would soon catch up to G in competence), no split-pot players already there, same high rake (would they negotiate?)


MGM is really nice too, but terrible location for walk-ins. They did just get the big PLOH game to move there.

Originally Posted by AKQJ10

Now that I think of it, why not Motor City?

Pros: centrally located, lots of walk-in traffic, decent dealers for Detroit, rxr or PLOH players might get curious and play, free food (but no comps)

Cons: not used to split-pot (but would soon catch up to G in competence), no split-pot players already there, same high rake (would they negotiate?)


MGM is really nice too, but terrible location for walk-ins. They did just get the big PLOH game to move there.

Originally Posted by Turdzilla

+1

I would like to play were we can attract additional players. Which place would have a better chance of filling up for the entire evening?

Cada's seems to have sporadic start/stop.

Originally Posted by Dharzhak

When we get 5+ regulars that show up on time, the game insta-fills and becomes the biggest cash cow you've ever seen. When we get 3 regulars, or less, showing up an hour late or worse, then it doesn't run at all.

You can either get ground down by a ****ty rake and slow dealers, or you can get average profits approaching $1K each session. It's an hour drive for me, but it's well worth it if the game runs.

Originally Posted by AKQJ10

Is that a $1-2 PL game? 35 big blinds per hour (assuming 12 hour sessions, assuming $840 is "approach $1K") isn't sustainable. However, the game could still be worth an 80-minute drive. I'll have to check it out.

Originally Posted by AKQJ10

In the year i've been a reg in the LO8 (coming up to 300 hours), i have five +$700 days with the max being +$913. I wouldn't call that "average profits approaching $1K each session" because my winrate is nowhere near $70/hour (more like $20/hr). I can't compare the PLO8 game based on the information ITT; what i really want to is evaluate expected winrate relative to travel cost, and secondarily evaluate variance.

Originally Posted by HavingWithdrawls

^^ Will NOT be playing said game w/you sir, or any of u guys for that matter. I prefer my opponents to drool while breathing from their mouth

Originally Posted by HavingWithdrawls

^^ Will NOT be playing said game w/you sir, or any of u guys for that matter. I prefer my opponents to drool while breathing from their mouth