For one, I dont have spell check on my phone. Secondly I always use my notes when teaching because I suck at spelling. Always have always will (thx dyslexia).

Yes I know I had weak holdings, thats why I made the move I did to protect my stack from a monster. If he reraised me knowing I wanted to go all in, I knew I was beat.

As far as this angle goes Im mearly playing like an incompitant player. Unlike Caveman's villian who was manipulating others and blatently breaking the rules of the game (changing OOT action, denying all in moves).

But maybe I am too good at being incompitant and I dont really know how big of a douche I really am...

Hard to decide if you are worse at spelling, poker, or ethics

Duco please reveal your name and likeness so we can collude against you. Not to cheat, but to protect our stacks from your possible holdings.

Also, you'll probably be slow rolled.

Blatant sting raise which is against the rules and is in fact you trying to angle shoot. Did you read the definition in the blog?

This is why I love this thread.

^^^^Agree

Haven't posted much lately but been following along.

@Caveman, DETPokerz is looking great, nice job!

I'm moving further east soon (somewhere in Ferndale/Royal Oak/Berkley area) and really appreciate having all the rooms pointed out on the same map. Gonna be a lot closer to Cadas/Snookers/Big Beaver now and looking forward to checking these rooms out finally.

k, thx for telling me whats what. I guess my personal bais never saw it that way. I'll just go back to lurking.

And sorry Coach, Im out of the country for who knows how long. But when I get back, I'd be more than happy to let you practice your hypocrisy on me (then get you kicked out/banned, unless I misunderstand what collusion is?).

Make sure you post when you are heading up to Hall road to play. First drink is on me

DucoGranger, Yes it is you that chases players who are easy money away from this game. May you get bad beat 10x, for every time you've pulled an unscrupulous, unethical move like that. Yes it is you that gives poker and those of who respect the game an unfair label by many. Respect the game. Change your ways while you can.

Thanks 25! I'm still working on the database and it's a lot harder than I thought for what I want to do. But I'm plugging away at it.

I'm in on that party.

For sure! Gonna be about a month from now.

How come I've never been offered a free drink

Btw, at mcc. Got down here around 7:30 this morning and there was 3 1/2, 1 2/5 and it looked like the big game was running 4-5 handed. Now there are 8 tables running but I'm too lazy to see what is what.

Standing offer to everyone including you, 1game.

Find the tubby guy spewing. Call me a donkey. Get a free drink.

Ok i will. I am more then willing to play at any of the 3 rooms, as long as theyre willing to spread itIf i had to pick which room would be best in terms of being able to maintain the game and keep it running regulary i would have to pick motor city, however i dont believe any of the dealers there actually currently know how to deal it. I am more than willing to put the effort in to get this game running, but in order to do so, its gonna be easist if anybody that wants to play anytime soon, could email me their contact information, and phone numbers so i can send out text to everbody and get a head count of intrested players before i actually call into motor city and ask them to spread the game. PLEASE EAMIL ME YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER IF YOU INTRESTED golfetto89@gmail.com. thank you

, First Off Plo8 isnt an uncommon form of cash game what so ever. They have been growing rapidly in popularity, espically on the west coast in recent years. YES I actually mean Pot limit omaha hi/low. IM not sure what else you could of thought i was refeering too. Second off, trying to limit a structure too some broke ass version of omaha that allows you to feel comfortable playing on your thin bankroll, and they claim its for the best intention of maintaing the game long term is disingenuine, and down right scrubby! Please dont waste anybodys time by replying to a post by going off on a non related tangent that only serves the purpose of showcaasing your ingorance! I posted on here to elicite the response of players who are seariuos about consistantly playing POL8! Not omaha. If you want to try and get an omaha cash game going, then by allmeans, create your own post and try to generate intrest but DO NOT REPLY TO MY POST UNLESS YOUR SERIOUS!. THANKYOU.

The Greektown O8 game used to run at MCC, so im sure a few of the dealers still know how to deal it. That would be the best place to run it since they get more foot action. The only downside is you would be paying max rake. Also they wont spread it if the bad beat is really high. I think thats why they moved the game to Greektown

lol I love how the first response isn't even close to serious.

Anyone else grinding tonight? Debating between Snookers and MCC. Snookers I get a free lunch, MCC has fewer nits. First world problems...

Dude. Relax. This is a forum. Expect questions, clarifications, and even opposing points of view. We are a bit of a "community" as the forum title suggests.

He wasn't attacking your point of view. He was getting clarification. We are all aware that Omaha/PLO/PLO8 has some popularity - thank you very much. But we have seen any number of people roll thru this Forum with serious intentions of generating an Omaha/PLO(etc) scene of some sort. Each has had at best mixed success. His recommendations about considering the sustainability are valid and are based on observations of other previous efforts in this Market. But if you don't want to take his Point of View into consideration - fine. Just don't dismiss it as "disingenuous" or driven by your perception of his Bank Roll.

I'd really recommend getting to know this little community a little better before going of on a rant telling us how to reply to your posts. These guys have a ton of experience and represent a core segment of your target audience. If you're going to be successful in generating and sustaining a game, these guys can help. To dismiss them as rudely as you have runs counter to your efforts, IMO.

Finally, for the love of God, please do at least a basic spell/grammar check.

Showcaasing ingorance indeed.

GTFO

Wow. From the guy with 4 posts. Well **** you too then.

PLO8 is a structure that is not hardly mentioned in the Omaha literature that I've read, and I've never seen it spread here, in AC, or in Vegas. But I've seen plenty of PLO, and O8. Hence "it's a uncommon structure". Fine, maybe it has become really popular at the commerce in LA in the last 2 years or something, but it's a big leap to assume that because of that everyone should expect it to be a household game.

"Broke ass version of omaha"?
Omaha is intended to be played as a post flop game. That means that you need reasonably deep stacks and high SPRs.
Since Pot Limit games scale VERY rapidly, a $2-5 PLO/8 will tend to play as big or bigger than $5-10 NLHE.
Adding a $5 straddle to a $1-2 game gets you back to the $2-5 situation very quickly, without increasing the stack sizes/max buy-in enough to allow players near the max buy in ($300-$500?) to maneuver postflop. With a single raise pre to $15 and two callers you're now at an SPR of < 10 and you've got 2 and a half bets left. You really need a higher buy-in for those spots.

So what are you trying to spread? $1-2-5 with a $500 max buy-in? Or $1000 max?
If you've got enough players to run that game every week, then by all means do it, and good luck with that venture.
But if you'd like to get some of the vast pool of $1-2 players to say "oh, that looks fun, let me try that game" and help feed your game, then it has to play small enough to give them a chance to at least sit down. The same logic applies to drawing the $2-5 NLHE players, of course with a higher tolerance for sitting with $500+.


Call me a scrub if you want, but I've at least thought about how to structure an Omaha game without it burning out, and given reasons for why I think that. If there's a problem with my argument, then please point it out. But don't just insult my bankroll and dismiss a potential player for your game.