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05-30-2017 , 09:53 PM
I'm coming to Ann Arbor for a conference in mid-June. I'll be there five night and am looking for poker room.
Apparently, McShane's Irish Pub in Ypsilanti runs cash games Thurs-Sunday evenings.
Are there any local options Mon-Weds evenings?

Also, what games typically run? I assume $1-2 NL. Any PLO?
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05-31-2017 , 12:41 AM
The American Legion runs games Sun-Wed (same folks as McShane's/Roundtree). Westside Bar in Ann Arbor Runs Sun-Wed too, but they've had some charities back out recently. Should be running mid June.

There is PLO at all of them if the right guys show up and ask for it. Some days even PLO8.
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05-31-2017 , 09:53 AM
One of the methods to check out charity poker is to go to the Michigan Millionaire Party Locator. You can choose to look for games by county or city and it will show the active licenses/locations for that area. Being from out of town it may take a little work to find out the names of the counties, but I prefer that method since it covers more territory.

The AL will run PLO and I've heard that you need to get there so you can make 1st table or get high on the list ... what time that is I don't know. Typically these places will open by 400 but traffic will vary. Also remember that the times listed on the 'locator' may not match the hours of operation. Most charity rooms are 1/2 that plays like 1/3 or 2/5 with $3-400 allowable BI.

Charity poker in Michigan is limited to $15K in chips per day ... and these rooms will run out of chips some of the time. By the time you are here the limit may be $20K as the Governor may have signed a new law into effect. GL
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05-31-2017 , 04:35 PM
would be awesome if we could update the first post in this thread w/ all of the current details of area poker....
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05-31-2017 , 05:20 PM
Well, the numbers for the Casinos are still the same.

The Heidelberg poker room is closed (bar/restaurant still open).

There's a Charity room in Ann Arbor at Westside Bar at Zeeb and Jackson. (Sun-Wed) Phone: 734-366-5096.
They've had some issues with getting all their charity paperwork worked out far enough in advance, but I think it's mostly worked out now.

Roundtree is now McShanes. (Thurs-Sun) Phone still 734-434-1234.

The American Legion in Ypsi (100 Ecorse road) is open Sun-Wed, phone: 734-707-3503.

I have no direct line for Windsor, only the generic 800-991-7777

Greektown is extension 3 on the main line: 313-223-2999

I have a number for Firekeepers, but I don't know if it's a direct poker line or not: 269-660-5631

Vision lanes has a poker room, but I forget which days other than Thursday, Phone: 734-674-4807

Maybe a link to the Millionaire Party Locator would help: http://milottery.state.mi.us/gc-mplocator.php
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06-01-2017 , 12:25 PM
Firekeepers number IS for the poker desk. Call when you are an hour out ... and if you are a reg and get dropped from a list they may still add you back in where you were if it's the 'right' floor. I've never really looked over their shoulder, but Bravo must have timers attached to call-ins and players away from the table.

Charity room (Millionaire Party Locator) link looks good too. I have it set up as a quick link (one-touch) next to my apps on my phone. (Not sure how to explaine how I did that, but somehow I pulled it off!!) Just remember that lisence hours don't necessarily mean 'hours of operation' ... it could be less. GL
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06-01-2017 , 04:26 PM
How is Reno's East? I've never been there.
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06-01-2017 , 05:33 PM
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How is Reno's East? I've never been there.
Lansing poker (Trippers) was even better than the GR scene before MSGB quieted things down for them. During the MSU school year there was a lot of action every time I wandered over there.

I don't hear much anymore. If GR people travel it's typically to FK now. I can say with some pretty good confidence that the same group that operates in Lansing is going to operate the new locations in Jackson if they can get things rolling by August as they plan to.

There are plenty of players in that area but my guess is that the home game scene is hoppin' pretty good or they travel down 69 to FK. GL
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06-01-2017 , 08:12 PM
Vision runs Thur-Sun as does the new room in Wayne ( Wayne Bowl or QoH II ). 6 tourney tables running RxR now at Vision, 1 cash table.
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06-02-2017 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
Well, the numbers for the Casinos are still the same.

The Heidelberg poker room is closed (bar/restaurant still open).

There's a Charity room in Ann Arbor at Westside Bar at Zeeb and Jackson. (Sun-Wed) Phone: 734-366-5096.
They've had some issues with getting all their charity paperwork worked out far enough in advance, but I think it's mostly worked out now.

Roundtree is now McShanes. (Thurs-Sun) Phone still 734-434-1234.

The American Legion in Ypsi (100 Ecorse road) is open Sun-Wed, phone: 734-707-3503.

I have no direct line for Windsor, only the generic 800-991-7777

Greektown is extension 3 on the main line: 313-223-2999

I have a number for Firekeepers, but I don't know if it's a direct poker line or not: 269-660-5631

Vision lanes has a poker room, but I forget which days other than Thursday, Phone: 734-674-4807

Maybe a link to the Millionaire Party Locator would help: http://milottery.state.mi.us/gc-mplocator.php
Thanks Angrist, much appreciated
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06-03-2017 , 08:06 AM
Played the O8 5/10 game at Greektown last night. I remember now why I haven't played it in so long. 5 hands per down. It was so sloooooow.

(In before how much did you lose #160)

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06-03-2017 , 09:57 AM
Michigan's Casey Carroll will be at the WSOP $3K Shootout Final Table today. He made it through the preliminary rounds and lastly had to defeat Barry Greenstein HU.

Poker is never easy but perhaps this shootout format has less bumps in the road to a bracelet than most tournaments. 3-4 SnG wins to the title. 10th place is 'only' $14K with $232K up top. Not sure the live stream status .. GL
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06-03-2017 , 10:01 AM
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Michigan's Casey Carroll will be at the WSOP $3K Shootout Final Table today. He made it through the preliminary rounds and lastly had to defeat Barry Greenstein HU.

Poker is never easy but perhaps this shootout format has less bumps in the road to a bracelet than most tournaments. 3-4 SnG wins to the title. 10th place is 'only' $14K with $232K up top. Not sure the live stream status .. GL
no stream from what I can tell. streams are on the pokergo app (I assume it's not free, but not sure) or live coverage on espn - https://www.pokernews.com/news/2017/...cast-28103.htm
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06-03-2017 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Michigan's Casey Carroll will be at the WSOP $3K Shootout Final Table today. He made it through the preliminary rounds and lastly had to defeat Barry Greenstein HU.

Poker is never easy but perhaps this shootout format has less bumps in the road to a bracelet than most tournaments. 3-4 SnG wins to the title. 10th place is 'only' $14K with $232K up top. Not sure the live stream status .. GL


Yeah mark my words, if I ever win a bracelet, it'll be in the $1,500 shootout. Win 3 SNG's = win a bracelet.

Gl him though. Waking up with an opportunity to play for a bracelet is the dream. It's been a pretty nice 13 month stretch for him from what I can tell. Lame there's no stream.
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06-03-2017 , 10:45 AM
Yes .. Pokergo is the 'new' Twitch. I think it's $10 per month or less if you sign up for a year. ($200?)

It's very possible that someone will rebroadcast on Twitch.tv/Periscope in order to draw in 'buyers' of the PGo app. I was watching Day 1 of the SHR on Twitch and they were saying that the rest of the tournament would be on PGo if you wanted to sign up and watch. GL
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06-03-2017 , 10:48 AM
If you look in the FKeepers forum you will see a link to an incident from Thursday evening. Some Florida guy snatched up some Bennys 'from a pot' and hit the road with security chasing. State police got the guy a little later.

The PLO game is pretty big on Thursdays, but not so sure it's 'that' big at 7:30 PM to try and pull a stunt like this one ... GL
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06-03-2017 , 11:33 AM
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Yeah mark my words, if I ever win a bracelet, it'll be in the $1,500 shootout. Win 3 SNG's = win a bracelet.

Gl him though. Waking up with an opportunity to play for a bracelet is the dream. It's been a pretty nice 13 month stretch for him from what I can tell. Lame there's no stream.
If I was willing to bet on a format of poker that will never have someone win two bracelets in a 10 year period it would be the shootout format. Its pretty damn hard to win 3 SNGs in a row. Assuming you're a break even player that wins 16% of the SNGs you play. Then it would be .16^3=0.004096

Learn a non holdem game and hope you run good.
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06-03-2017 , 11:39 AM
I don't get how the bill bandit even made it out of the building to be honest. lol
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06-04-2017 , 12:14 AM
MGM really is going to add (5) more tables very soon.

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06-04-2017 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
I don't get how the bill bandit even made it out of the building to be honest. lol
At my local charity room (Muskegon) we were discussing poker robberies and one guy said, They better not try it here because I'm carrying and I know I'm not the only one.

Nothing like a shootout to add a little excitement to a robbery.
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06-04-2017 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
At my local charity room (Muskegon) we were discussing poker robberies and one guy said, They better not try it here because I'm carrying and I know I'm not the only one.

Nothing like a shootout to add a little excitement to a robbery.
I'm a charity player as well and worry about robberies. It would be nice to have SOME SORT of security presence at a charity room, but it seems all charity operations are too cheap to pay a meathead $10/hr to stand around with his arms crossed. (It's better than nothing!)

I started playing charity before I ever stepped foot in a casino. When I finally played at a casino for the first time, a little over a year into playing, I was blown away by how professional, clean and secure everything was. lol

This happened at a Jackson charity a couple years back:
Police: Man threatens Game On Sports Bar employee with knife during attempted coat theft

The report doesn't mention it, but a dealer and the floorman beat the dog**** out of the knife wielder in the parking lot before he fled.

I heard about a charity in GR that had an insane shooting in it. The shooter chased a guy from the bar into the cash game area. The guy getting shot at hid under the cash table as the shooter continued shooting him through the table! (It was over a girl, from what I heard.)

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06-04-2017 , 12:22 PM
I kno thasome of the dealers/staff in some of the charity rooms are armed.
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06-04-2017 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
I'm a charity player as well and worry about robberies. It would be nice to have SOME SORT of security presence at a charity room, but it seems all charity operations are too cheap to pay a meathead $10/hr to stand around with his arms crossed. (It's better than nothing!)

I started playing charity before I ever stepped foot in a casino. When I finally played at a casino for the first time, a little over a year into playing, I was blown away by how professional, clean and secure everything was. lol

This happened at a Jackson charity a couple years back:
Police: Man threatens Game On Sports Bar employee with knife during attempted coat theft

The report doesn't mention it, but a dealer and the floorman beat the dog**** out of the knife wielder in the parking lot before he fled.

I heard about a charity in GR that had an insane shooting in it. The shooter chased a guy from the bar into the cash game area. The guy getting shot at hid under the cash table as the shooter continued shooting him through the table! (It was over a girl, from what I heard.)
That last story was Kzoo. Interviewed the dealers and players on that story on my podcast.

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06-05-2017 , 10:55 AM
Security at the charity rooms is always 'a thing' but whether the Charity, Supplier or Landlord pays for it it comes out of the Supplier's pocket in the end. A Charity's expenses are capped at $900 or 45% of the rake if lower than $2K per day. So if you added another expense after rent it would cut into the Supplier's potential take. All the rake over $2k goes to the Charity. These reports and the Charity books themselves can be audited by the MGCB to ensure that Suppliers aren't getting anything extra from the Charities 'off the books'.

I haven't fully investigated this yet, but it should be much cheaper to make sure that the Charity's insurance policy, provided that they have 'any' insurance, would cover the loss of any robbery. The cost of a $15K 'robbery' rider for 4 times a year would be far less than the cost of security personnel that actually may escalate a situation.

Players want to point the finger at the Supplier since Charities rotate in and out of the same location, but 'the event' is hosted by each Charity, not the Supplier. The Supplier is hired, under contract, by each Charity to operate the game for them.

It will be interesting to see what happens if the daily limits do go up to $20K per day. I don't remember how the Supplier payments are affected within the proposed new law. If there is no provision to increase the Supplier's take, then that would be a flaw IMO. GL
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