do they have poker only dealers yet?

And do they pool tips or keep their own? GL

This is true. The new room is going where the old bar called "Agua" was located (think between the Valet entrance and the entrance to the club V). You'd pass it walking from the garage to the elevators for the poker room. The bar has been closed (with drapes covering the entrance) for at least a year now.

The plan is for 12 tables. The layout is pretty decent, though I think they squeezed a 12 table in where maybe there wasn't really room for it, but that table will only be used on weekends if the room is busy.

Until they're busier (if that ever happens), they won't have poker only dealers and the dealers won't keep their own tips. The room isn't busy enough for any of the daytime dealers to want to deal poker only and give up their share of tips from the floor. You'd have to have at least 4 dealers scheduled in the room (for the days when it's actually busy) right at noon and most days those dealers would basically only deal to one table for half an hour of of every two hours (often their second table doesn't start until after 2). There's no way the tips will be worth it for anyone to choose to be a poker only dealer on the day shift. In the evenings and on weekends, maybe they'd get enough players to make it worth it, but it would still be a struggle some days/nights and most dealers would end up taking a paycut on most of their paychecks due to the room being so busy.

As for a start day for the new room, all I've heard is early December. Someone (one of the shift managers) had told me they hoped to be up and running by this weekend (December 2) but I think that's a very aggressive timeline for it to actually happen.

Tips still divided throughout the entire casino

Anyone played tournies at Mr. B's in Royal Oak? It's the closest one to me after work today.

Just wanted some input as to the room, structure... is it worth my time.

Haven't played in awhile and itching to play tonight.

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I guess I can understand their 'situation' but I just hate tipping a group of people. I'm an 'ass' in my own way when it comes to tipping anyway but if I get the same vibe at MGM that I get at SE, then they will be disappointed in me. GL

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Anyone here ever play the deepstack tourneys at FireKeepers? Wondering how good they are.

The $120? 10k, 20 min blinds. The $240? 15k, 30 min blinds. The latter is one of the better tournaments around here.

Thanks.

Sorry late to the party. The $240 (as well as the 5th Sunday $400) is a 'one-time' re-entry as well if that matters. Most of their Sunday tournaments go to at least 900 PM so it's a nice day's work. It's just that for $120 you might take home $430 for 10th at 8 PM and feel cheated if you are a cash player also.

I find very little down there to critique. I've heard there is usually at least one drunken whale around either Friday or Saturday night .. You just need to figure out how to get him to your table!! GL

Thanks for the info.

I play cash there quite a bit. Just not tourneys.

I can confirm that Thurs, Fri and Sat are rather juicy. Lots of whales.

Just a quick update, MGM plans to have their new room open by Friday morning. Moving some tables already with all tables in place for the new room by Friday (you know, in case they suddenly get busy Friday night).

Why does MGM not get action. Been flying to Detroit every other month for work and I go to Motor city which has so much smoke it appears to be on fire and 50+ person waitlists. I then go to MGM and they struggle to get a 2/5 going. WTF

MGM ran some of the $2/5 players out by letting them get away with murder for years, then finally putting their foot down too late. So a couple of the whales either ended up banned or moved to MCC.

Beyond that ... the self fulfilling prophecy of people always suggesting MCC or claiming that MCC has the best games keeps driving traffic there. When the $1/2 game is better at MGM, and the facilities were cleaner/better too. But the free hot-box little ceasars is apparently enough to get people to MCC.

Heh yea the little ceasars thing is weird too. I'm not trying to knock yall but it's just kind of depressing. All rooms in Fl are smoke free (like, actually smoke free) and many you get $1/hr so basically can get a nice meal (and eat tableside) after a few sessions of buildup.

When I first visited I was like oh poker isn't that big here. But that's not the case at all, it's just not facilitated.

I'm not some anti smoking nit. I actually have a nostalgic thing for Marlboro. But dude 4 hours in that casino and I can taste the emphysema.

Mgm always gives me a scummy vibe, like the players and dealers are all buddies and colluding and such. Same with most charities.

Clearly they aren't really doing that but was just always the vibe.

MCC just seems more fun to me to play in, but I could do without the smoke!

I've never gotten a scummy or colluding vibe from MGM. Sometimes from Greektown, and definitely at the wrong charity.

If anything the MCC game feels nittier and less fun, especially when the BBJ is high. The lack of even a knockoff Bravo system and needing to yell across the room is completely amateurish too.

IMO little caesars is the nut low. It's the most disgusting "pizza" I've ever had. The cheese is awful, the sauce tastes like crap, and it's always rubbery from sitting in a hot-box even when you get it from the store. I expect to be fed it in hell.

Hit the nail on the head. I played at MCC last week just to change things up and the attitude of one of the dealers said it all to me. He was scoffing at the other 2 rooms downtown not having 10 tables running between them while MCC had a full room on a tuesday at 5pm. The reality is that MCC has the worst 1/2 action that I have seen in the entire state even with all the tables they have running. They know they have the entire market in their hands because they have the most players. I really think its up to the players to change that. Word of mouth is the best form of advertising and if we keep telling people to go to MCC they will go to MCC and not the other 2. I have played a couple of sessions at Greektown and found the games there to be much better (deeper, more action) than any table I have seen at MCC, where I have probably played 7-8 times.

MCC has the worst action for $1/2 of all three casinos. I've told people that and they just don't believe me. But then there are a lot of players that have never even stepped foot in any of the other rooms. How can you make a choice or have an opinion without trying them all at least once?

I agree with that... i've only played at MGM less than 10 times...and greektown once. the games have been good every time at MGM (small sample and I only play on Friday or Saturday nights so, take that FWIW). I play only at MCC now because for 2/5 no where else to get the game selection (4-6 games most Fridays and Saturdays). I do hate the smoke especially when end up at a table in the other "room".

I think its because people associate # of tables with action, which really isnt true at all. A charity room I play at gets 2 maybe 3 tables going and the worst table I have seen there would be the best I have ever seen at MCC

I always see these type of talks and think its just based on personal preference really.

MCC is creating all of the issues with the BBJ, MGM and GT just cant get anything going because of it. Dont ever expect the smoke to get better.

It looks as if you like a higher stake, but the charity rooms can get some good action, especially on the weekends, 100% smoke free, easy parking, dedicated room waitresses, nice crowd.