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02-19-2013 , 03:13 AM
Played Monday evening, table 11 seat 4, good game guys.
Thanks, had fun, made a small profit.

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02-19-2013 , 10:35 AM
Anyone planning to be around for the Tuesday event let me know.

GolfPro
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02-19-2013 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GolfPro
Anyone planning to be around for the Tuesday event let me know.

GolfPro
Hey Golfpro,

It was nice to have met u too bad we were too busy taking care of business and didn't have time to chat. Perhaps next time we should be in the same 2/5 table so I can show u how to straddle 50 and take the down the pot. LOL.. You did bring mean luck when you came over and introduced yourself and I rivered the flush.

I do plan to go up this Sat. and post it here about the time etc..
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02-20-2013 , 11:25 AM
I am glad my introduction helped you win a pot. Winning is good in which ever way it comes.

I hope you meant "me luck" instead of "mean luck" in your post.

Hope to play on the same table with you one of these days. I usually do not come in the weekends.

GolfPro
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02-20-2013 , 01:54 PM
I had a good session at 1/2 yesterday.

I was seated in Seat 9 and Seat 8 is one of the players that was running hot.
He was in SB and I was on BB in this hand. I had about 100 and he covers me by a mile.

Pre: 4 limpers and he makes it 10 to go. I make it 35 with Q's. He is the only caller.

Flop: 8910 with 910 Hearts. He checks I shove for 63 more. He snap calls with 67s. Turn:A and River:6 don't quite help us. Really! you want to call $25 raise with no one else in the hand with 67s.

I got all the money back and some playing at this nice and active table.

The hand where I got real lucky went as follows:

Pre: EP makes it 10 to go and I call with 7's. We pick two more callers.
Flop: 1034 R. EP bets 15 and I RR to 35 to see where I am at. Only EP calls.
Turn: 7. I check, he bets 55, I make it 120 and have another 100 behind.

After a few question and answer sessions, he goes AI. I snap and he turns over 3's. River didn't give him the one outer and I shipped a monster.

Last hand was interesting as well, let me reveal the hands in the end:

Pre: Eveyone limps for 2 (I am on the Button). BB makes it 7 to go. 7 callers. Pot:35.
Flop: 235 with 23 Hearts. BB bets 20, two callers (Pot:95), I make it 125, BB folds, caller 1 goes AI for 40 more, caller 2 folds. I call the extra 40.
Turn: 3
River: 8

(CLUE) I fade all the outs and ship the pot. So, what do you think V has and what do we have?
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02-20-2013 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GolfPro

Last hand was interesting as well, let me reveal the hands in the end:

Pre: Eveyone limps for 2 (I am on the Button). BB makes it 7 to go. 7 callers. Pot:35.
Flop: 235 with 23 Hearts. BB bets 20, two callers (Pot:95), I make it 125, BB folds, caller 1 goes AI for 40 more, caller 2 folds. I call the extra 40.
Turn: 3
River: 8

(CLUE) I fade all the outs and ship the pot. So, what do you think V has and what do we have?
Ok, here is my guess. I think V has A , 4. We hold 4 H , 6 H. You didn't mention the suits of the turn and river so figured they don't factor in.

Thanks for creating this thread.
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02-20-2013 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by H2O Guy
Ok, here is my guess. I think V has A , 4. We hold 4 H , 6 H. You didn't mention the suits of the turn and river so figured they don't factor in.

Thanks for creating this thread.
I can't tell if Hero won or Villian. Assuming you are right and Hero won, it doesn't make any sense that he had to fade the outs. A4 had no outs, unless it they were both hearts.
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02-20-2013 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GolfPro
I am glad my introduction helped you win a pot. Winning is good in which ever way it comes.

I hope you meant "me luck" instead of "mean luck" in your post.

Hope to play on the same table with you one of these days. I usually do not come in the weekends.

GolfPro
Of course "me luck". After 20 hrs of poker in 2 days my head doesn't function as well as my typing. I only can go up on the weekend. I do plan to go up this Sat. around 1 PM.
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02-20-2013 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GolfPro
I had a good session at 1/2 yesterday.

I was seated in Seat 9 and Seat 8 is one of the players that was running hot.
He was in SB and I was on BB in this hand. I had about 100 and he covers me by a mile.

Pre: 4 limpers and he makes it 10 to go. I make it 35 with Q's. He is the only caller.

Flop: 8910 with 910 Hearts. He checks I shove for 63 more. He snap calls with 67s. Turn:A and River:6 don't quite help us. Really! you want to call $25 raise with no one else in the hand with 67s.

I got all the money back and some playing at this nice and active table.

The hand where I got real lucky went as follows:

Pre: EP makes it 10 to go and I call with 7's. We pick two more callers.
Flop: 1034 R. EP bets 15 and I RR to 35 to see where I am at. Only EP calls.
Turn: 7. I check, he bets 55, I make it 120 and have another 100 behind.

After a few question and answer sessions, he goes AI. I snap and he turns over 3's. River didn't give him the one outer and I shipped a monster.

Last hand was interesting as well, let me reveal the hands in the end:

Pre: Eveyone limps for 2 (I am on the Button). BB makes it 7 to go. 7 callers. Pot:35.
Flop: 235 with 23 Hearts. BB bets 20, two callers (Pot:95), I make it 125, BB folds, caller 1 goes AI for 40 more, caller 2 folds. I call the extra 40.
Turn: 3
River: 8

(CLUE) I fade all the outs and ship the pot. So, what do you think V has and what do we have?
V (caller 1) has suited 4h 6h so there's no need for him to RR when he called $20 bet from the BB. He's flopped the str. with a flush draw. when you said you faded all the outs then you are holding pocket pairs like 99 or higher. I say you lost this hand.

When you re-poped to 125, he's got to jam all in to show strength and he's also pot committed.

If you have any pair (from 55 to 99) on the button and just limped in then you're playing really bad since you have 6 other callers. If I have a pair in the button with 6 callers, I'd raised to 25 and see where everbody at and since you are the button you can only lose 25, if u get RR let say to 80 then you fold putting your opponent with KK or AA.
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02-21-2013 , 10:09 AM
Thanks for all your inputs. As H20 said thanks for Jammit in creating this thread. This gives us a chance to discuss the specifics of the hands without derailing the main thread.

The clues are right there: I fade all the outs and ship the pot. So, this statement itself means that the hero won. I try to hide the details of the suits to make the discussion more engaging.

Here are the results:
Preflop: Hero is on the button and is faced with a $5 on top with 6 callers. I toss the extra 5.

Flop Comes: 2H 3H 5C. Pot: 35
EP bets 20, gets 2 callers, Pot: 95 (before repop), hero has 4S 6C and would like to take the pot right here or charge the drawing hands a price to draw. I repop to 125, folds around, EP Folds, Caller 1 is AI for 40 more, I call.

Since we are in a cash game and people don't show their hands, we have to assume either he is sitting on a set at the minimum or a st8 or a FD. I think two pairs won't go crazy calling 125 on that board.

By fading the outs I meant no more hearts and no pair on the board. My first wish was granted with a 3 of diamond on the turn, but it paired the board, so it is possible that he might have a boat.

Turn was 8 of diamonds.

He turned over AH4H, he flopped a st8 to 5 with a redraw to St8FD and Flush (5H - 1, Any H - 8, Any 6 (chop outs) - 3, faded 12 outs to ship the pot).

GolfPro
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02-22-2013 , 09:24 AM
Golf Pro, as we've talked about previously, the correct places to "discuss" hands like you're doing here (basically telling stories) is the BBV forum or a blog in 2+2's blog section. I think you can contact Bobo Fett for a blog account.

If you decide that you want to request strategy feedback, you should post in the Low-Limit Live forum under the No-Limit section.
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02-22-2013 , 09:43 AM
Hi Rapini,

Since the 2+2 regulars that go to CT that want to discuss the action and report session updates were directed to this thread (created recently). Since it was more like a session update and wasn't really looking for an input I posted the same here.

Let me know if I need to create a thread for CT in BBV Forum.

I think it gets too tedious to remember the multitude of links.

GolfPro
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02-22-2013 , 12:34 PM
Rapini - I actually told GolfPro it was ok to do this here (specifically so that it could be discussed amongst the CT regs). Let's have a sidebar.
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02-22-2013 , 04:16 PM
If the goal is to reduce the use of 2+2, telling people to keep changing threads will do it. I'm not sure the point of not allowing people to post comments among CT regs in a forum for CT. I like reading these posts, but I find little value in the low limit strategy area. Here, I know who it is doing the post, and the action is definitely unique to CT, so there is context.
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02-22-2013 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by keegan
If the goal is to reduce the use of 2+2, telling people to keep changing threads will do it. I'm not sure the point of not allowing people to post comments among CT regs in a forum for CT. I like reading these posts, but I find little value in the low limit strategy area. Here, I know who it is doing the post, and the action is definitely unique to CT, so there is context.
+1. I agree completely. I've never found it burdening or obnoxious to sift through a hand/trip report in the venue section of the forum. I do find it both of those to have to click another forum and sift through in the hopes of finding something interesting to read.
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02-22-2013 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by keegan
If the goal is to reduce the use of 2+2, telling people to keep changing threads will do it. I'm not sure the point of not allowing people to post comments among CT regs in a forum for CT. I like reading these posts, but I find little value in the low limit strategy area. Here, I know who it is doing the post, and the action is definitely unique to CT, so there is context.
I know I am new here, but I also totally agree. I happened upon here by searching CT and was delighted to see the other thread. When I saw this thread and the interesting post by GolfPro, I signed up. I am an avid CT patron and find these posts very interesting.
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02-22-2013 , 06:56 PM
It sounds like the posts need to stay based on the last few comments and Lattimer's and my discussion. The downside of leaving them is they're pretty standard fare re bad beat / brag stories that can be found in the BBV forum and they might discourage other posters from participating in this thread to build a true community of regulars if the thread becomes dominated by them. They don't really lend themselves to discussion.

The pro is that if those posts bring traffic to an otherwise low-traffic thread, it could result in a critical mass of players participating and the thread taking off.

If in the future they choke out other discussion to the point that you guys think they need their own place, we'll reevaluate. Thanks for your feedback!
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02-22-2013 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by keegan
If the goal is to reduce the use of 2+2, telling people to keep changing threads will do it. I'm not sure the point of not allowing people to post comments among CT regs in a forum for CT. I like reading these posts, but I find little value in the low limit strategy area. Here, I know who it is doing the post, and the action is definitely unique to CT, so there is context.
Exactly, you like reading these posts and I like recaping them after my trip because sometime I feel by reading other's inputs or responses will help me improve my hand in the next round. Doing a recap it is telling a story, however, the feedbacks from your fellow poker players could help you improve your games and eventually profits.

If you can't post your recaps in the CT regs thread then what's the purpose of creating this thread?
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02-22-2013 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2/5_specialist
I feel by reading other's inputs or responses will help me improve my hand in the next round. Doing a recap it is telling a story, however, the feedbacks from your fellow poker players could help you improve your games and eventually profits.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...low-stakes-nl/

B&M is not a forum for strategy. The link above is where you should post if you want to "improve your games and eventually profits."
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02-23-2013 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...low-stakes-nl/

B&M is not a forum for strategy. The link above is where you should post if you want to "improve your games and eventually profits."
I am confuse as to what I can post here since my recaps being kicked off from the main page. Can you please give some clarity is it okay to post the recaps here or not? I think this thread was created so we "CT regs" can have a chat here about the CT trip and not clogged up the main page.

If you look back a couple weeks in the main page, my recaps did generate a lot of discussions or "traffic" according to your term. More traffic means good right? The above link that you've provided did not really interest me because most people (at least myself) would prefer having discussions with the "CT Regs" than those in other poker rooms. Although it is a forum strategy link, however, having a discussion with "CT Regs" makes me feel more comfortable since we go play in the same poker room and perhaps having a chance to meet up.

The bottom line is if I or other can't even post a recap in this so call "sidebar" here then there would be no interest for me to come here and chat.
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02-23-2013 , 11:54 AM
2/5 it is ok to post your session recaps here.

Rapini confirmed the same.

GolfPro
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02-23-2013 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2/5_specialist
I am confuse as to what I can post here since my recaps being kicked off from the main page.

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More traffic means good right?

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Although it is a forum strategy link, however, having a discussion with "CT Regs" makes me feel more comfortable since we go play in the same poker room and perhaps having a chance to meet up.
Definitely read this before posting: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/20...-22-a-1087524/.

More traffic is good as long as there's decent content in the posts.

That's all well and good that you feel more comfortable discussing strategy with people who go to the same casino as you do, but poker strategy in general is the same regardless of where or what you play. You can describe your reads on your opponents in ways that others can understand and have meaningful conversation with them even if they've never heard of your casino. If you're looking for strategy discussion, you really should participate in LLNLHE.

You can post just about anything in this thread (including recaps) as long as it doesn't violate the guidelines I posted the link to above.
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02-26-2013 , 06:01 PM
So if the dust has settled around this thread...

Not a CT reg, but have been going recently and will continue until Maryland Live opens up (sorry! I live in DC so it'll be about half the distance).

Had a super rough session last time I went, though I'm fairly sure I jinxed myself right off the bat. Second hand at a newly formed table, lots of limping, I call in LP with A3 off. Flop comes AA7 unsuited, seat 2 bets about half the pot, everyone folds to me, I call, figuring unless a 3 comes, this guy has me in bad shape. Turn is a card > 7, same action, pot is up to about 60. River is another card > 7, no straight or flush threats, and seat 2 checks. I check behind fairly confident I'm beat and he shows A5. I didn't realize it was a chop AND I MUCKED! I realized during the next hand, and I couldn't believe it! Super noob mistake. The whole time, I was ready for him to turn over a bigger ace than mine, which in my brain meant I lost, but I didn't bother to check his kicker vs the board at the end... ughh.

Suffice it to say, things only got worse. Had Aces cracked early on, UTG I raise to 8, got 3 or 4 callers. Flop is uncoordinated except for two clubs, so I bet a healthy amount, 20 I think, and get two callers. I put at least one of them on a flush draw. Next card is 3s, as blank as it gets, so I put in a really healthy raise, 60 I think, and only one caller, he's in first position. The last card is Jd, and first position goes all in for 100, leaving me with ~60 behind if I make the call. I call and he shows J3 of clubs for 2 pair.

Not sure how I could have won that pot besides going all in PF or maybe on the turn, since he was clearly ready to gamble. Advice is welcome though!

Lost with kings to a flush, that one's not even worth discussing since it was a few hands later and I was steamy, so I just pushed and pushed without thinking.

Ironically, the only hand that redeemed my session was a super suck out, I raise PF with A9c, get a few callers. Flop comes Q94 with one club. It was late and I was down to the last ~50 of my effective bankroll for the evening, so I shove, and get called in two spots (second caller was J3 man from the earlier hand). The guy to my left had QQ for top set, no clue what J3 man had. Luckily, I got running clubs for the nut flush. Dude to my left was so blown, he left for 15 minutes, then came back, and 10 minutes later told me how that flush had killed him. I conceded to sucking out but let him know that I was in for 300 and only had about 140 in front so I felt his pain.

Other than losing, the session was a lot of fun, I've found that most people are very friendly, if a bit quiet, at the table. Going back on Thursday and hoping for a little redemption. I'll plan on folding aces and kinds pf this time, lifetime I'm about -170 with them, HA. They say beginners tend to overplay Aces and Kings, I'm pretty much the poster child for that at the moment.

One love.
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02-26-2013 , 07:11 PM
Went up two weekends ago for a late night session. Was playing 1/2 when my riding buddy came over to the table for a minute. I decided to take a smoke break with him and got up from the table an headed to the bathroom first. On my way out I realized I left my jacket and cigarettes at my seat. Walked back and the dealer saw me so he delt me in. I looked down at two red Aces and got a 3 bet then a 4 bet all in behind my EP raise. The 3 better folded to my all in and my aces held up... EZ game.

Anyways I think I'm heading up Sunday. Maybe I'll run into some of you.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using 2+2 Forums
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02-26-2013 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bortron5000
So if the dust has settled around this thread...

Not a CT reg, but have been going recently and will continue until Maryland Live opens up (sorry! I live in DC so it'll be about half the distance).

Had a super rough session last time I went, though I'm fairly sure I jinxed myself right off the bat. Second hand at a newly formed table, lots of limping, I call in LP with A3 off. Flop comes AA7 unsuited, seat 2 bets about half the pot, everyone folds to me, I call, figuring unless a 3 comes, this guy has me in bad shape. Turn is a card > 7, same action, pot is up to about 60. River is another card > 7, no straight or flush threats, and seat 2 checks. I check behind fairly confident I'm beat and he shows A5. I didn't realize it was a chop AND I MUCKED! I realized during the next hand, and I couldn't believe it! Super noob mistake. The whole time, I was ready for him to turn over a bigger ace than mine, which in my brain meant I lost, but I didn't bother to check his kicker vs the board at the end... ughh.

Suffice it to say, things only got worse. Had Aces cracked early on, UTG I raise to 8, got 3 or 4 callers. Flop is uncoordinated except for two clubs, so I bet a healthy amount, 20 I think, and get two callers. I put at least one of them on a flush draw. Next card is 3s, as blank as it gets, so I put in a really healthy raise, 60 I think, and only one caller, he's in first position. The last card is Jd, and first position goes all in for 100, leaving me with ~60 behind if I make the call. I call and he shows J3 of clubs for 2 pair.

Not sure how I could have won that pot besides going all in PF or maybe on the turn, since he was clearly ready to gamble. Advice is welcome though!

Lost with kings to a flush, that one's not even worth discussing since it was a few hands later and I was steamy, so I just pushed and pushed without thinking.

Ironically, the only hand that redeemed my session was a super suck out, I raise PF with A9c, get a few callers. Flop comes Q94 with one club. It was late and I was down to the last ~50 of my effective bankroll for the evening, so I shove, and get called in two spots (second caller was J3 man from the earlier hand). The guy to my left had QQ for top set, no clue what J3 man had. Luckily, I got running clubs for the nut flush. Dude to my left was so blown, he left for 15 minutes, then came back, and 10 minutes later told me how that flush had killed him. I conceded to sucking out but let him know that I was in for 300 and only had about 140 in front so I felt his pain.

Other than losing, the session was a lot of fun, I've found that most people are very friendly, if a bit quiet, at the table. Going back on Thursday and hoping for a little redemption. I'll plan on folding aces and kinds pf this time, lifetime I'm about -170 with them, HA. They say beginners tend to overplay Aces and Kings, I'm pretty much the poster child for that at the moment.

One love.
LMAO. Dude you were aces full of sevens. The only hand that beats you is if he had the case 7...very unlikely since he was the aggressor post-flop on a board of 2 aces. What were YOU thinking!! (NOTE: I just saw the ">" nevermind....please disregard what I just said).

And for the record. With AA your post-flop bet of $20 is only 50-70% of the pot($32). Your next bet of $60 is only 67% of the pot ($92). Both weak bets in relative terms. You should have bet at least $40 post-flop and shoved it all on the turn.

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