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09-25-2015 , 07:51 AM
Regs who play 1-2 6 to 12 hours a session
get rooms Sunday to Thursday twice a week.
(Or has this been reduced to once a week for
6-8 hour sessions?)
12+ hours a day gets you Fridays, 15+ hours
Might get you Saturdays. 2-5 players multiply
Hours by 3/4 .if you play bigger games, consult
The poker host. Its worth noting the borgata
Room comp calender updates very quickly, as
Early as the next gaming day. Those
Who play significantly less hours and claim to get these results aren't
Disclosing their time at the slot machines or
Table games.

Last edited by dipce; 09-25-2015 at 08:19 AM.
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09-25-2015 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dipce
...the best dealers overall are undoubtedly those that cut their teeth dealing mid-limit games at the Taj...
Experience is a double edged sword for casino employees in general, and especially poker dealers. I suspect that most dealers get burned out over time.
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09-25-2015 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dipce
12+ hours a day gets you Fridays, 15+ hours
Might get you Saturdays.
A little overstated. Over 10 hours is the key.

I play an 11-12 hour day of 1-2 once or twice a month. I don't use my card for anything else except spending comp dollars. I've been able to get two days a week, any days of the week, for months. Fridays and Saturdays, even through the summer, even holidays, even Water Club.

The only blip was when I missed a full calendar month. The Saturdays went from comped to just discounted, then right back after I played again.
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09-25-2015 , 08:04 PM
Hi guys hope all are well! I just had to weigh in and say the best dealing staff ever assembled in Atlantic City was at Revel. Due to the timing of our opening, we had the luck and ability to get the best of the best. Just about every top dealer from the other house's in town applied and were hired and most worked both places. If you played at Revel at all then you know what I am saying is true, unfortunately not enough players took the time to find out for themselves.
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09-25-2015 , 09:26 PM
Are you suggesting that it's the players' fault that Revel failed?
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09-25-2015 , 10:20 PM
I think he's suggesting that the players missed out on a good thing.

Personally I never even got to play at the place; the few times I tried either there was a super long list that I didn't want to wait for, or there were no games going at all. And anyway I prefer limit games which they were unlikely to get.

It did look to be a very nice room though; might have been a little more successful if it hadn't been hidden away and with no signs to tell you how to easily get there. You could walk right past the stairs, be maybe 20 feet away from the entrance, and still not know where it was. The poorest location for a poker room I have ever seen.
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09-25-2015 , 10:25 PM
I was in the ocean in Ocean City, NJ, the other day and I looked up the shore toward AC and saw Revel. I really wish it'd had stuck around long enough for me to see the inside because I'm now convinced that I'll never see it. I think that there's enough corruption and pettiness in around AC that that beautiful building will never be used again.
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09-25-2015 , 11:14 PM
I have not followed the Revel saga for a few months. Last I heard, that crazy Florida guy had won it but was trying to lose it in court. Does he still technically own it? Are all of the court/bankruptcy issues resolved yet?
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09-26-2015 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 413AceKing
I have not followed the Revel saga for a few months. Last I heard, that crazy Florida guy had won it but was trying to lose it in court. Does he still technically own it? Are all of the court/bankruptcy issues resolved yet?
Tomorrow morning he'll be suing you for asking about it.

I think the sale might be done, but he's still fighting with the power plant and the club/restaurant tenants and Caesars and Trump and probably a couple dozen others, too.


The layout left a bit to be desired, but I was impressed with the building. It outdoes even Borgata for swanky finishing. It may have cost too much to build, but you can see where the money went. And Frankie ran a good room.
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09-26-2015 , 08:00 AM
"... It may have cost too much to build, but you can see where the money went."

You actually can't see where the money went
Because they stiffed their contractors.

Revel did have some of the best poker dealers,
But they were Taj poker dealers on the casino
Floor dealing black jack and roulette.

No one could compete with the Borgata poker
Room at that time, it was at the height of its
Powers and scooped up all poker players
In its path.
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09-26-2015 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie518
Hi guys hope all are well! I just had to weigh in and say the best dealing staff ever assembled in Atlantic City was at Revel. Due to the timing of our opening, we had the luck and ability to get the best of the best. Just about every top dealer from the other house's in town applied and were hired and most worked both places. If you played at Revel at all then you know what I am saying is true, unfortunately not enough players took the time to find out for themselves.
Frankie, I love ya man, but no. Just no. You had some good dealers but you also had the worst break in dealers I've ever seen. There are only 3 dealers I've ever had where I would either do a table change or take a 20 minute break if they sat down and Revel had 2 of them.
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09-26-2015 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lunkwill
Are you suggesting that it's the players' fault that Revel failed?
No, not at all! There were many challenges to overcome, very unfortunate! A lot of players who did come to play during the BBJ and High hand Giveaway before the room closed told me they regretted not giving the poker room a shot due to all the rumors they heard. That's also unfortunate.

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09-26-2015 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV
Frankie, I love ya man, but no. Just no. You had some good dealers but you also had the worst break in dealers I've ever seen. There are only 3 dealers I've ever had where I would either do a table change or take a 20 minute break if they sat down and Revel had 2 of them.
Lol and I love ya back!!!Please understand I was referring to the Dealers that we hired day one! Many of them did not last more than 2 weeks due to business. As those dealers left we did have to fill in with many dealers who were new. Many players did not get to see the original lineup, that's all I meant by that. But its great to chat with you guys again!
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09-26-2015 , 04:56 PM
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Tomorrow morning he'll be suing you for asking about it.

I think the sale might be done, but he's still fighting with the power plant and the club/restaurant tenants and Caesars and Trump and probably a couple dozen others, too.


The layout left a bit to be desired, but I was impressed with the building. It outdoes even Borgata for swanky finishing. It may have cost too much to build, but you can see where the money went. And Frankie ran a good room.
Thanks for the "thumbs up" sirpup!!!
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09-26-2015 , 05:14 PM
The room comps, when they
Were finally given, (they
Were unveiled two minutes
Before midnight,) were
Great for non-regs and not
A bait-n-switch scam as
We have to deal with now
At one of the properties.

The Italian subs were delicious.
(And there was always enough
For everyone thanks to the fact
The sign directing folks to the poker
Room wasn't nailed in until one
Minute before midnight. )

Finally, the poker room did have
The most beautiful cocktail waitress
In the Northeast working the room,

Three bright spots I'll always treasure.

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09-26-2015 , 05:53 PM
As a guy who recently touted Borgata as the best poker room in the country, in the Borgata thread: when Revel was here it was better than Borgata in every aspect other than room location and action.

It was more luxurious, better comps, better dealers on average, responded to customers requests and comments better, better food options for poker players by far (awesome quality food at huge discount, and the only casino in AC with good coffee), easily attainable free rooms which had the requirements defined and could be used at a later date, better rake, etc.

The room location sucked.

But the biggest issue was players didn't play there because other players didn't play there (and in some cases were spewing bad info). And as players continued to not play there, even as the reputation improved, players kept not playing there.... Because other players weren't playing there...

So I'll suggest it was somewhat and in part player's faults the room didn't succeed.

I miss that room.

And I'm bitter.

Thanks for it while it lasted Frankie!
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09-26-2015 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 85chickasaw
As a guy who recently touted Borgata as the best poker room in the country, in the Borgata thread: when Revel was here it was better than Borgata in every aspect other than room location and action.

It was more luxurious, better comps, better dealers on average, responded to customers requests and comments better, better food options for poker players by far (awesome quality food at huge discount, and the only casino in AC with good coffee), easily attainable free rooms which had the requirements defined and could be used at a later date, better rake, etc.

The room location sucked.

But the biggest issue was players didn't play there because other players didn't play there (and in some cases were spewing bad info). And as players continued to not play there, even as the reputation improved, players kept not playing there.... Because other players weren't playing there...

So I'll suggest it was somewhat and in part player's faults the room didn't succeed.

I miss that room.

And I'm bitter.

Thanks for it while it lasted Frankie!
Hi Chick, very well spoken. And it was my pleasure!!! Great to hear from you!
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09-26-2015 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dipce
The room comps, when they
Were finally given, (they
Were unveiled two minutes
Before midnight,) were
Great for non-regs and not
A bait-n-switch scam as
We have to deal with now
At one of the properties.

The Italian subs were delicious.
(And there was always enough
For everyone thanks to the fact
The sign directing folks to the poker
Room wasn't nailed in until one
Minute before midnight. )

Finally, the poker room did have
The most beautiful cocktail waitress
In the Northeast working the room,

Three bright spots I'll always treasure.
Totally agree Dipce!
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09-26-2015 , 09:24 PM
Revel was by far the best room for poker players I've ever experienced: amazing $ per hour comps enough you could eat for free, weekend room comps with 10 hours of play on a Fri or Sat gaming day, plenty of fish willing to lose a lot at 1/2 100-500, brand new facilities, TVs from every angle... And of course great management personally as well as running the room!

I wish it didn't close.
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09-27-2015 , 01:20 AM
Wish I had gotten a chance to play there, sounds great. I heard that the views inside the casino were great as well.
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09-27-2015 , 10:54 PM
This discussion always makes me bitter as well. Revel was far and away the best room I've ever played in. It wasn't even close
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09-27-2015 , 11:32 PM
I liked the idea of an all smoke-free casino but I didn't like the fact that it was the only non-union casino in AC until it was put up for sale. That's one reason I never entered the place. The fact that they never had the limit games I mostly play made it easier to stay away.
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09-27-2015 , 11:44 PM
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The 29$ "free" room at ballys is so ridiculously LOL when borgatas rooms are 5$ a night in taxes when comped.

CET is such a ludicrous company. Still can't understand how the market hasn't weeded them out yet.
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How many hours do you need to play at Borgata to get a $5 room?
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Originally Posted by dipce
Regs who play 1-2 6 to 12 hours a session
get rooms Sunday to Thursday twice a week.
(Or has this been reduced to once a week for
6-8 hour sessions?)
12+ hours a day gets you Fridays, 15+ hours
Might get you Saturdays. 2-5 players multiply
Hours by 3/4 .if you play bigger games, consult
The poker host. Its worth noting the borgata
Room comp calender updates very quickly, as
Early as the next gaming day. Those
Who play significantly less hours and claim to get these results aren't
Disclosing their time at the slot machines or
Table games.
So it sounds like at CET properties you need to play fewer hours to get a room, you don't have to be a reg, and it's available to limit players too. Of course the downside is that their "free" rooms are $29, Also no weekend rooms available at CET unless they've recently changed it
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09-28-2015 , 12:23 AM
At CET, you have to play that same day, and not know ahead of time if you will get the "free room" or not. Apparently very few people actually get it.

At Borgata you get a calendar with a few months available to choose rooms from. You don't even neccesarily have to play any on the days you stay there, although if you did that regularly I imagine the offers would cease. And you certainly can get them for limit play. I used to be a 10/20 limit regular, maybe 30 hours a week, and very rarely over 10 hours in a day, and I would get any day of the year I wanted except New Years Eve and Independence Day, at one time up to 4 nights a week, although it was later reduced to 3 max. I moved away 3 years ago but have no reason to believe it has changed much since then.
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09-28-2015 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Asterix811
I liked the idea of an all smoke-free casino but I didn't like the fact that it was the only non-union casino in AC until it was put up for sale. That's one reason I never entered the place. The fact that they never had the limit games I mostly play made it easier to stay away.
I understand the smoke-free thing, but the union thing is a bit perplexing.

I view unions as affirmative action for the lazy and stupid, so I might be a bit biased.
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