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Old 07-07-2017, 01:20 AM   #1
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Stud8: Wired AA

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Seat 2 is the live player, completing/raising lots of hands.
Seat 4 is a laggy 2+2 winning player

3rd
Seat 1: [X X] 2 bring-in, folds.
Seat 2 : [X X] J completes, calls.
Seat 3 : [X X] K folds
Seat 4 : [X X] 6 raises, calls.
Hero : [A A] 6 3-bets.
Seat 5 : [X X] T folds
Seat 6 : [X X] 3 folds
Seat 7 : [X X] 9 folds
Seat 8 : [X X] J folds

4th
Seat 2 : [X X] J 8 checks, calls
Seat 4 : [X X] 7 4 bets, calls
Hero : [A A] 6 7 raises

5th
Seat 2 : [X X] J 8 5 checks
Seat 4 : [X X] 7 4 8 checks
Hero : [A A] 6 7 9 checks?

6th
Seat 2 : [X X] J 8 5 K checks, tanks and folds
Seat 4 : [X X] 7 4 8 K thinks and bets, calls
Hero : [A A] 6 7 9 Q raises?

7th
Seat 4 : [X X] 7 4 8 K [X] checks
Hero : [A A] 6 7 9 Q [4] bets?

Thoughts?
3rd/4th seem standard

5th not sure, Seat 4 has a dangerous board and this is a total brick and I'm not sure I'm an equity favorite against a likely pair of Jacks and most likely a made low that's free-rolling me.

6th I'm obviously representing a flush and trying to force out Seat 2 to improve my high chances

7th Not sure there's a value in a bet, as I should basically always be against a low here. But there is some chance I am against a set/2 pair, but then am I getting c/r'd (when filled up) or folded? I almost always have a flush here.
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Old 07-07-2017, 09:35 AM   #2
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Re: Stud8: Wired AA

Fifth is certainly a bet
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Old 07-07-2017, 03:46 PM   #3
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Re: Stud8: Wired AA

*beginner stud player here -- just my thoughts -- probably wrong *

Since we've got a hand that's going high vs a likely low hand and surely high hand, seems like we'd want to keep that other worse high hand in to try to win half of his money. Aren't we concerned the raise on 4th would push the other high hand out of the pot?

Seat 4's check on 5th makes me think he doesn't have a low, maybe he's paired his 8? Unless he's concerned his 87lo is a dog to your 76lo draw. I'm definitely betting when checked to.

On 6th, again, do we play better HU or multiway? At this point having not improved beyond aces but with a flush draw, are we concerned about protecting our high equity? Maybe even a raise would get seat 2 to fold bad 2 pair (I'd think unlikely if he's a loose player).

On 7th, you probably don't get any lows to fold but you're getting called by Khi flushes , straights, probably trips hoping you're playing a rivered low this way. If he had trips on 5th, why didn't he bet? So you're worried that he burried kings that made trips on 6th. Would burried kings raise on 3rd? They might even 3bet on 6th. Then if he does have trips, lots of his 4s, 7s, 8s are dead. I think too nitty to check back.
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Old 07-07-2017, 05:36 PM   #4
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Re: Stud8: Wired AA

5th is a bet, 6th is a call, and there shouldn't be a '?' on 7th.
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Old 07-07-2017, 09:19 PM   #5
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Re: Stud8: Wired AA

Its a raise on 4th zoog because we caught too well for both our hand and our range. Plus the pot is decent sized, so getting hu with a low draw with this hand leaves us in great shape. Getting an overcall from the second best hi is good, getting hu vs the low draw is better, getting a cold call from second best hi is icing on the cake.
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:44 AM   #6
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Re: Stud8: Wired AA

bet 5th, as played I raise 6th to knock J out and also for value. 7th is definitely a bet but if you mistyped the hand and have only AA instead of Ahi flush it is a x/call.
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:58 AM   #7
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Re: Stud8: Wired AA

Like everyone said, 5th is a standardish bet, even if opponent(s) have made a lo a lot of good things can happen with our hand (like making a better 7 lo) and our board is strong enough that we shouldn't get punished too hard
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:18 PM   #8
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Re: Stud8: Wired AA

7th street is an obvious value bet. When it gets checked through on 5th, your "always against a low here" almost certainly paired. You get value from trips and two pair hands that will call and sometimes even a worse flush that might raise you.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:41 PM   #9
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Re: Stud8: Wired AA

If it's me on 5th I bet and HOPE seat 2 calls and I get raised by seat 4

high vs high vs low, punish that guy man. don't let him draw for free.

BTW looks like seat 4 started 3 low hearts, and now bets 6th with his draw. I like the raise, even if you hadn't started flushing.

Obviously bet river. Bet/raise or bet/call? My guess is it's only bet/call because he can have AK flush or more often just a low.

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