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07-29-2016 , 08:09 PM
15 30 game with 20 in antes and a 5 bring in

I open (3c5c)3x into a 6 and a 2. Only the 2 calls. Clubs are live.

4th I catch the Ac and he gets a 5

Bet call

5th I catch a red jack and he gets a 9

Bret call

6th I get king of clubs and he pairs his 5

So I have (35)3ajk with four clubs and he has (xx)2595

He donks.
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07-29-2016 , 08:36 PM
His most likely hand is a low draw with the 5s, seems like a straightforward call to me.
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07-29-2016 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Donk Quixote
His most likely hand is a low draw with the 5s, seems like a straightforward call to me.
I wasn't thinking of folding.
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07-29-2016 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle
I wasn't thinking of folding.
I didn't say you were...Our board isn't scary enough to get many folds here against his range, only thing a raise is likely to accomplish is set up a river bluff when we both miss, which seems like an expensive parlay to me. Also we don't get to raise the river when we make a flush anymore.
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07-29-2016 , 10:21 PM
So I guess I don't know what your question is
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07-29-2016 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
So I guess I don't know what your question is
Is raising worth it so when we both miss 7th I can win with the worst hand.
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07-30-2016 , 01:21 AM
I don't think you're getting anybody to fold 7th in that game. I've never seen it happen over the past two plus years. If you brick, fold, be grumpy and then remember that the next time you have a decent hand you will make a lot of money because so many are putting it in dead.
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07-30-2016 , 02:42 AM
I wouldn't raise. You only can successfully bluff 7th if he has only one pair, he doesn't make a low or two pair on river (he will call), and you don't make trips, two pair, or flush on river (you're not bluffing). Also when he bets I think he is more likely to have better than one pair already. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
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07-31-2016 , 12:03 AM
Unfair inside info here, but you can only call, and bluffing the river will not work enough to make it worth the shot in my opinion, though if it will ever work, it will be when you raise Six and fire the river, so I get what you're doing. This just isn't the lineup or spot to try it.

There are two or three players in that game capable of folding one pair on the river, and they aren't the type to fire Sixth with one pair. If the Fives checked to you, it might be a play because they are passive nits who would check open Fives if that was their whole hand, but very few of the people who would fold the river would bet in that spot.

It might work against me if I was getting out of line but even then I'm a dick about the river so I probably call with one pair.
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07-31-2016 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by electrical
Unfair inside info here, but you can only call, and bluffing the river will not work enough to make it worth the shot in my opinion, though if it will ever work, it will be when you raise Six and fire the river, so I get what you're doing. This just isn't the lineup or spot to try it.

There are two or three players in that game capable of folding one pair on the river, and they aren't the type to fire Sixth with one pair. If the Fives checked to you, it might be a play because they are passive nits who would check open Fives if that was their whole hand, but very few of the people who would fold the river would bet in that spot.

It might work against me if I was getting out of line but even then I'm a dick about the river so I probably call with one pair.
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Agreed. You were actually at the table for this hand and I would t try to against most (and I didn't) but this guy was old at not horrible at poker. He was 1 and then 2 to your right. Also you've never folded a river to me ever and I always have it.
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07-31-2016 , 02:51 AM
What game is this, if you guys don't mind telling?
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07-31-2016 , 03:02 AM
Hollywood aurora (Illinois) runs a 15 0e game on Mondays and just the Omaha rubs most other days
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07-31-2016 , 03:55 AM
Hmm, interesting. I played there once years ago; the LHE games were great, but they had the highest rake I had ever seen.
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07-31-2016 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Hmm, interesting. I played there once years ago; the LHE games were great, but they had the highest rake I had ever seen.
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08-01-2016 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Also when he bets I think he is more likely to have better than one pair already. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
Agreed, I more likely to be 2 pair when he donks then open pair 5s with a low draw, thus nearly impossible he's folding to the bet on 7th after the raise on 6th.
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08-01-2016 , 11:35 AM
Incidentally, if I were going to make a play like this (against a relative unknown), I would bet without touching my river card.
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08-15-2016 , 01:24 AM
Villian has low draw and his first pair, you have around 18 outs for high. I love raising right here in case you both miss, you win with treys if he blind checks the river and you just come out betting. Don't even look at your river until he calls then pray and squeeze.
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