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Old 05-15-2012, 02:50 AM   #1
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What kind of software do you use for stud hi?
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:40 AM   #2
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HUD-GAME IS DOWN THE STREET

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it does not make too much sense in a game where your play, not only on 3rd street, is more based on your opponents holdings that on your actual hand.
dead cards and multiway pots make people play in ways that a tracker wont be able to clearly display to you.
there is a software that shows you all dead cards, but its forbidden on pokerstars and they already banned people for that.

please excuse the following ramble:

stud is neither a flop-game, nor is it a masstabling-game and thats the beauty of it.
why dont you just try to play it neat and get good reads on players by concentrating on the board-cards and using the replayer after the hand? just play 1-4 tables and actually get a clue how the game works instead of the "standard hud-bot ********"
is it so hard to understand that STUD is not like PLO/NLHE?
its not like having KK utg means raise and 4 bet, you have to look at the board,
is your pair hidden or split, are there any dead outs for your hand? is there an Ace nehind, etc etc....

anyway, there is some software for free that tracks wins and losses and a pokertracker-stud, which is not updated anymore and most likely doesnt run nowadays.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:03 AM   #3
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Re: HUD-GAME IS DOWN THE STREET

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there is a software that shows you all dead cards, but its forbidden on pokerstars and they already banned people for that.
Stud Indicator keeps track of dead cards and and is listed as permitted software on PS website
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:51 AM   #4
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Re: Software

any software for razz aviable???
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:00 AM   #5
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Re: HUD-GAME IS DOWN THE STREET

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none.
it does not make too much sense in a game where your play, not only on 3rd street, is more based on your opponents holdings that on your actual hand.
dead cards and multiway pots make people play in ways that a tracker wont be able to clearly display to you.
there is a software that shows you all dead cards, but its forbidden on pokerstars and they already banned people for that.

please excuse the following ramble:

stud is neither a flop-game, nor is it a masstabling-game and thats the beauty of it.
why dont you just try to play it neat and get good reads on players by concentrating on the board-cards and using the replayer after the hand? just play 1-4 tables and actually get a clue how the game works instead of the "standard hud-bot ********"
is it so hard to understand that STUD is not like PLO/NLHE?
its not like having KK utg means raise and 4 bet, you have to look at the board,
is your pair hidden or split, are there any dead outs for your hand? is there an Ace nehind, etc etc....

anyway, there is some software for free that tracks wins and losses and a pokertracker-stud, which is not updated anymore and most likely doesnt run nowadays.
I've just played some stud games and I like it but I stopped playing it because first I need to know more about it. I'm reading at the moment a stud poker book and some online articels.

Of course I'm not looking for a software to "cheat" or get an unfair advantage. I'm looking for a training software which shows my handhistory and my good/bad moves like the SNG wizzard for push and fold. But stud might be too complex for that.

As I said before I'm new to this game and I want to learn the basic first before I start playing seriously.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:55 AM   #6
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Re: HUD-GAME IS DOWN THE STREET

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there is a software that shows you all dead cards, but its forbidden on pokerstars and they already banned people for that.
That's Stud Inspector. Its Hold'em cousin that obviously doesn't have the same feature is also forbidden. What they do have in common is the ability to host bots...

Stud Indicator contains a partial AI for 3rd street play in Razz (it makes a raise/call/fold recommendation incorporating all information about the current hand as long as you don't have a pair (in which case it just says "N/A")). It also tells you when you have the nuts. I have no idea why it's not banned with extreme prejudice.

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Old 05-15-2012, 10:39 AM   #7
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Re: HUD-GAME IS DOWN THE STREET

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Stud Indicator keeps track of dead cards and and is listed as permitted software on PS website
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/
Stud Indicator is the only software left, it works for Stud Hi, Stud8 and Razz.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:22 AM   #8
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Stud Indicator is the only software left, it works for Stud Hi, Stud8 and Razz.
Works well too.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:03 AM   #9
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Re: Software

I use FPDB (for everything including Stud, I think the only games it doesn't work with are draw games...). It's not fancy, and doesn't keep track of dead cards, but it displays the showdown cards in a convenient window after the hand so you can review it, and has a completely customizable HUD, which I agree is less useful in stud games than flop games but still not useless if you set it up to display the right stuff. Best of all, it's completely FREE!
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