Saw a razz video where they did a steal with (AQ)2 against a complete from a 4 with only the 2 and a K left and no A/Q/4s out at 5/10 razz.

SOP says resteal with an 8. I wonder if this is too loose and might get you into trouble on later streets.

Certaintly not when there's another baby left to act. It's questionable even when your'e heads-up with the completor. He needs to be stealing a ton obv and play pretty straightforward/nitty on later streets

No, there was no other low card to act.

Think it is a losing play usually because you get into trouble on later streets.

In the video, they said you had a lower door card, but I don't think that is too relevant or A2 is that good in razz.

highly depends on who you're doing it againt

I dont like it.I saw ceegee do it in his vids also and fair enough if it works for himm but i couldnt do it on a reg basis.I see it as spewy

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This is correct even with some abc / tightish low door(s) behind. I prefer not to go into specifics, but you guys are smart enough to figure out who these raises become optimal against.

It's not a standard play with one or more to act behind, and it wouldn't be a standard play without sufficient antes. Those become situational.

FR games where an aggro villain spr and you are last door behind him, it becomes more standard to take that line for different reasons.

Nice breakdown.

Thanks

pretty much +1. Villain's stealing range, steal/fold range, and how much is already in the pot could combine to make it mathematically correct to play this loose. Even if you figure the EV in this particular spot is zero or slightly negative it may be a worthwhile line. DUCY?

Obvious benefit of discouraging stealing, but perhaps some reverse implied odds as it may be difficult to play on later streets.

not only that.villains are going to start 3 betting you way lighter(only if you get to sd with your "resteal hands " though)

The thing is you have to be behind villain's range unless he is completing with 2 bricks. If he is completing with atleast one unpaired hole card 9 or lower, his range has you crushed. So it should only be used against certain villains at a full table with a fairly large ante.

Read this:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...71&postcount=7

One important point on this topic is that if you decide to employ this restealing strategy in your razz game it should only be implemented a portion of the time it is dealt. If you are reraising me with hands like this and I catch you doing it with a relatively high frequency, it's going to get very expensive for you to sit on my left. You don't want to become the guy that auto reraises any 2 card hand. That's a difficult hole to climb out of unless your villain is completely clueless to what's going on or if he doesn't make you pay for it.